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If your body can't digest it, it passes it. How inefficient does it make the digestion process? My money says "not enough to actually matter".
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Your body absorbed a lot of materials. There is no one in your GI tract that is saying picking out which material is good or not. Most of what you eat gets into your body and if your body doesn't recognize it or doesn't use it, it goes into fat deposits and festers.
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This is funny because it doesn't support your point. To paraphase part 1: all sugar makes you fat, HFAC is just also kinda poisonous. Okay.
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They agree with me here that HFAC doesn't make people any more fat than other sweeteners do. Part 2: what happens to improperly processed fat?
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Participants in the fructose group, however, showed an increase of fat cells around major organs including their hearts and livers, and also underwent metabolic changes that are precursors to heart disease and diabetes.
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"We didn't see any of these changes in the people eating glucose."
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fructose is not broken down in the digestive system like other sugars are. Instead, it moves directly into the liver, where it interferes with that organ's ability to process fat.
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Your most recent point was that anything that is unhealthy is also fattening.
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No,
I said that obese people aren't healthy.
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Very likely, the rats became obese because the MSG increased their appetite and they therefore increased their calorie intake. This is very different from MSG directly making them fat.
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No,
So right here we have a laboratory study that says the food additive (that shouldn't be in the food in the first place) induces obesity AND ALSO has been shown to increase appetite.
Either way you cut it, it still causes obesity.
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MSG-Induced Obesity
MSG is injected into laboratory rats to induce obesity.
It also has been shown to increase appetite in male rats and to induce obesity in female rats and chickens. Scientists in Spain have recently concluded that MSG when given to mice increase appetite by as much as 40%.
http://www.msgtruth.org/obesity.htm
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Originally Posted by Chojin
You can compare the two substances because they have the same effects on the body and have the same exact nutritional content
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There is a quote above that counters your statement. They do not have the same effect on the body nor do they have the same structure and they certainly do not have the same nutritional content.
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HFAC just also has some purported side effects, none of which are convincingly related to obesity. The negative side effects of HFAC are tremendously irrelevant when compared to the negative direct effects of all sugars.
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One more time for good measure.
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fructose is not broken down in the digestive system like other sugars are. Instead, it moves directly into the liver, where it interferes with that organ's ability to process fat.
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Again, the calorie content of a 20oz mountain dew (with HFAC) and a 20oz mountain dew throwback (without HFAC) is the EXACT SAME. Are you seriously suggesting that someone would gain less weight when drinking the throwback?
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Yes,
Because it doesn't contain HFCS that cannot be broken down and interes with the livers ability to process fat. I don't know how many times I have to repeat this.
HFCS, as you stated, has dangerous side effect and induces obesity much like other food additives.
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Define "pressure on the organs".
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Re-read the quotes
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They're safe enough to pass FDA standards, which means that any poisons they contain are trace enough to not matter
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People who believe what the FDA says usually die and their families have to sue for damages.
VIOXX anyone?