[Preechr]

"There is no predictable pattern of movement like you would see if the amoeba was making any logical 'choices,'"

I don't remember him actually saying things had to be observed to be swimming in easily predicatble patterns to be considered to be practicing some sort of thought. It would seem his argument kinda includes the concept that what passes as thought for you just might not be the least complicated process that exists that could still be called "thought." That's why he said what he did about retards in general.

Additionally, but in a more general sense, Science can tell the difference between a homo sapien and a duck, but not that between a homosexual duck and a regular duck. Psychiatry is not Science, but it does measure patterns. The easiest way to completely fuck up Psychiatry (or Psychology, for that matter) is to make your own damn decisions.

You can ask him what being a "determinist" means, cause I don't know... it seems important to understanding how he's kicking your asses right now, though...