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Originally Posted by AChimp
Your brain does not tell your white blood cells to fight infection. They do it themselves when the baddies are detected by a whole system of other things. Infect the embryo and infect the clone, you will get a reaction in both, regardless. You see, the mother is what is keeping the fetus alive (pumping blood, providing oxygen, etc), and we would have to run the clone with machines to simulate that, since there's NO BRAIN in my example.
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It would actually depend how the cloned body would react. Are you keeping it alive by electrical impulses? Or is it merely lying there?
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Originally Posted by AChimp
Whoops! We've still forgotten about the NO BRAIN clause. Regardless, I'm sure you're aware of the autonomic nervous system which operates without any input from the brain at all. That's why your heart beats on it's own, you know. The human body CAN function without a brain under the right conditions.
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The autonomic nervous system is involuntary. It is controlled by the thalumus and the hypothalumus. The heart has a pacemaker. Its own form of nervous system. That is why the heart beats for sometime after death. It is the only system in the entire body that is not dependant on the brain to function.
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Originally Posted by AChimp
Right, so it is developing independently from, yet relying on, the mother? Maybe I'm still flabbergasted at your "bacteria have brains" comment, but can you explain to me how something can be independent from and reliant on the same thing, especially when, if you were to remove the mother from this equation and not replace it with anything, the fetus would die?
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Easy remove the mother and guardians from the equation of a 6 month old baby. Is the baby not essentially independant? Does it not also rely on those taking care of it?