[Gatorman]

so I say again, what is wrong with civil unions being used for gay or straight people, and religious/whatever marriages being used for traditional purposes.

I'm telling you right now that if you want to win this debate nationally you have to drop the word 'marriage.' That is all.


And I gave you MY definition of marriage. I tried to leave all religion, historical, etc references out of it. It sounds to me as if you are denying the religious foundations of the American version of the institution of marriage. I'm not really up for history lessons today, but maybe later.