[KevinTheOmnivore]

I think I elaborated on why those were the options, but anyway. This is considered a do-nothing Congress to begin with. What would one more missed opportunity mean to the American public at this point? What would it mean to a lame duck president?

There are members of Congress who believe we must leave these options on the table if we wish to win this war. There isserious compromise to be had here. No one ever said it's pleasant to conceed certain things, but hey, it's the U.S. Senate!

I think McCain wanted to denounce and forbid torturing rouge combatants, and that is what he has done. If they had held out for a laundry list of every conceivable thing that one could do to another person, nothing would've passed. Then we have torture, and it's back to the drawing board on a decent bill, and the NEXT time they try to pass it they maybe get even less.