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Originally Posted by Dimnos
"The deliberate and systematic extermination" is the part Zhukov is having trouble with. He never once said that the American people as a national group couldnt be the target of genocide. Just that they arent.
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So, when the healthcare commission (Death panels) start rationing care, who will be affected by this?
If the answer will be the US population then wouldn't that be a form of Genocide, Murder, immoral behavior all done with malice of forethought?
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Originally Posted by Zhukov
An interesting point for everyone but Coolinator; most of what people think of as Stalin's "genocides" are not in fact genocides. Hundreds of thousands of people were imprisoned, executed, starved or relocated, but because Stalin was part of the team that made up what the UN considers "genocide", they omitted political views alongside race, nation, religion etc from the treatise...
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Anyone else see a problem with this statement? ^^^^
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Originally Posted by Zhukov
So, while genocides against many ethnic peoples still went on in the USSR; against the Cossacks for example, most people killed were killed because they were an enemy of the state for political or economical reasons, rather than racial or religious ones.
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Were they citizens of the USSR? Were they part of a national group of individuals? Thus....Genocide?
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gen·o·cide
the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group.
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Originally Posted by Zhukov
By your imagination Death Panels will be responsible for killing people through lack of care. Murder, as you see it.
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Sorry, I have to stop you right there. If you allow someone to die because of lack of care....then in a court of law that would be seen as murder. Especially when you're a public servant and your job is to protect the well being of the people whom you work for. This is common knowledge.
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Originally Posted by Zhukov
US citizens will die. They wont, however, be targeted by "Death Panels" with aim of eliminating them as a national group.
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If you target and ration US citizens health benefits.......what do you think will happen to the individual in question when they need a serious operation and or expensive medication to continue living?
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Originally Posted by Zhukov
Are Death Panels rounding up US citizens wherever they find them and killing them? Are US citizens forced to leave their country as refugees because of persecution? Are your Death Panels actively intent on destroying the nation of the USA?
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They don't need to. They'll just deny their health benefits. No need to hunt them. If they need insulin or an operation....they'll just say "no". Simple as that.....hence why they're called DEATH PANELS. lol. Wow, you're pretty dense my friend. Sharp as a marble too.
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