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Old Sep 21st, 2010, 08:18 AM       
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Originally Posted by DougClayton4231 View Post
I personally support this initiative. For 17 year olds, this isn't a big deal, they just have to wait another year. Children shouldn't be playing our current mature games anyway because they are far too gratuitously violent and sex laden...What are your thoughts on this?
You're fucking deluded? I'm sorry, people with terrible opinions just make me angry, and we've had run-ins before, so I'll just preempt your self-righteousness and attack your premises. Firstly, you think just waiting another year until you're eighteen is perfectly acceptable when I would be more than willing to bet you didn't wait and had your parents buy them for you. Now, they can't get their hands on it at all until then, regardless of parents. Games are pornography to you, waiting to hurt children. I'd be willing to contend that not even pornography is that harmful, but that's another discussion entirely. When I was a kid, about nine or ten, Die Hard with a Vengeance was probably my favorite movie. I couldn't tell you why. I only knew that the director, John McTiernan, had done something cool. I've since seen the first one, and it became my favorite movie of all time, inspiring me to be a film major. I never liked things that catered to children. I was too fucking smart and whenever I did watch a kiddie movie, it felt like they were talking down to me. When I got older, about twelve or so, we got a PS2, along with Metal Gear Solid 2. The original was fantastic, but the second one blew my fucking mind. I knew what games could be. It also reinforced my film major plans. I honestly have nothing to combat you, since your argument is structurally unsound, ("Should" fallacy.) I can't disagree enough with you, as I would not be the person that I like and that my friends like today without having played, seen, and read everything I have.

Besides, I've seen dead bodies rolled out of hotel rooms under bloody sheets every night on the news, since I was born. And it'll still be that way. Famous starlet showing her snatch getting out of an Escalade. It's acceptable to be bombarded with otherwise reprehensible imagery, so long as it's not a game or movie.

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Originally Posted by OxBlood View Post
Maybe I´m just a cranky old man by now but we played differently back in the day, because our parents knew what we were doing. Sure, I played Doom when I was 12 or something but that game didn´t linger in my mind for days after that. I played it and then I was done with it, cause it was just some game.
I think you should pause and think about your past. Old(er) people seem to find new ways, every generation, to say that the new generation is worse than theirs. It's ageist. I didn't have any money growing up, so all my family had was an SNES until 2002 or so, when we got a PS2. I eat, slept, and breathed Super Mario World. I had one game, andI was thinking about it constantly, just as obsessive as if I woud've had Doom. (Obsession in my mind, being far worse than exposure to violent imagery.) When I wasn't playing it, I was talking about it to friends. Coincidentally, playing a shit-ton of games as a kid makes you a lot of friends. Just thought I'd put that out there.

It's just, people find it really easy to lose perspective, which is sad. I'll never lose connection with how hard it was, sometimes, getting a hold of great games, having people tell me I can't do something, can't watch something, simply because I wasn't of age proper. Suppression of information to youths is disgusting and something I find intolerable.
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