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Old Jan 6th, 2009, 09:24 PM       
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Serious question for abcdxxxx: Why do you think the Israelis didn't do more to curtail Hamas throughout its history?
Israel's always had a bunch of nutjobs in the government who were desperate to make peace in the most self defeating manner possible. So at the time it was illegal to even negotiate with the PLO, there were groups like Peace Now pushing to find Arab leadership amongst the Arabs who would act as peace partners, and still have some control.

Initially the shortsighted idea was that religion would be a good influence on the Palestinians, and that Israel could help bolster some opposition to the Marxist revolutionary splinter groups under Arafat & Co. The support was very short lived, and Hamas turned out to be a monster.... but it's all relative. Marwan Barghouti is a name Israel still dances around as a possible moderate they can support...and he's in an Israeli jail.

I don't realy have an answer for you, because I suppose your question is meant to suggest that Israel allowed Hamas to rise to power purposely so that the Palestinians would adopt the most extreme leadership possible. I'm sure that was one of the 1000 strategies tossed around and never commited to along the way. In between world outrage over targeted killings of Hamas spiritual leaders, etc. What more could they have done? How should they be handling Islamic Jihad for example? Or the more regional problem of Muslim Brotherhood for that matter?


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On a larger scale, wouldn't you agree that true socialism is vastly preferable to the absolutely insane division of wealth and the islamofascist paradigm nurtured by the west ever since the third reich sent advisors to cairo?
Actually that happened the other way around. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem went to Germany, and advised on their Jewish problem.

Who was offering a true Socialism though?
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