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Old Jan 7th, 2009, 01:40 PM       
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I'm not saying that Hamas was created recently because of Israeli attacks, I was implying that they have political weight because of Israeli attacks.
Israeli attacks have little to do with the Hamas rise of power. Gaza was Islamicized back during the early 80's. Look into the Islamic University actions in 1980.

The idea that a sovereign nation fighting guerilla armies who seek to overthrow only strengthens militant terrorists is just a spin. You were questioning why Israel even allowed Hamas to get to this point, which is a good example of Israel being damned if they do, or damned if they don't. Mind you, it was your theory that kept Arafat out of Israel targets.

See, the tendency to think Israel is masterminding, and pulling the puppet strings from both sides is a bit silly. In truth, they've really just made bad choices in the face of unparallaled scrutiny. They've always doublt dealt with enemies, and tried to be shrewd...as have the Arabs on the other end.

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Jews might have been a target for past hatred, and Israel might have just been an excuse for that hatred, and probably still is to an extent, but you said yourself that it's not about religion, and that Jews and Arabs are capable of getting along together.
Well remember, Islam was politicized and went through a reformation, which is the real roots of a group like Hamas. The Pan-Arab/Pan-Islam program attempted to create a common enemy to bind them.
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