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Old Jan 17th, 2006, 07:53 PM       
Okay Lenny and Squiggy...

I think you're both a bit confused.

a) Shari'a law as it's currently applied by Muslims currently has no equal. The "how do you know stoning women is bad" argument is for 5 year olds. You both need to grow up. For the last time, the bad Rabbi doesn't justify the bad Mullah. Stop with the moral equivalency. It's dumb.

b) The term Fundamentalist applied to Islam is a misnomer. We're talking about beliefs which are standard, common, and Koranic, wether or not they await the day when these verses come to light, or take extremist actions to provoke the words of Muhhamed as their duty. A good analysis of this contradiction (which is also relevant to this threads original purpose) can be found here: http://hnn.us/articles/1805.html.

c) The marginalized Muslims are the moderate ones like Nonie Darwish http://www.frontpagemag.com/articles...e.asp?ID=16554, Irshad Manji http://www.muslim-refusenik.com/ , and Shayke Pallazi (linked earlier) who take a progressive approach to how their scriptures are INTERPETED, which matches modernized society, on par with other religions. Especially the religions which Islam co-opted. It also matches the upstanding and peacefull lifestyles that the majority of Muslims wish to continue.

d) Islam was founded by a conquerer. Muslims vs. Jews in Israel, Muslims vs. Hindus in Kashmir, Muslims vs. Christians in Nigeria, Muslims vs. Buddhists in Southern Thailand..... we can stop here. I'm not speaking from prejudice. There is clearly a problem. The lack of outcry against these Islam vs. everyon- who- isn't-Islam is a telling one.

e) 2:193- “Fight them on until there is no more tumult and religion becomes that of Allah”

9:123: “Oh ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers and let them find harshness in you.”

9:29- "Fight those who do not believe in God and the last day... and fight People of the Book, (Christian and Jews) who do not accept the religion of truth (Islam) until they pay tribute (Zizziya tax) by hand, being inferior.”
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