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Originally Posted by mburbank
My question is how do we still paint the violence in Iraq as being perpitrated by 'insurgents' 'Baath party loyalists' 'terrorists'? When a mob drags mtuilated bodies out of a car, ties them to automobiles ties them to bridges, parades the through the street, is it some small group of holdouts trying to stifle democracy?
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Can't it be all of the above? While you would have to be a fool to think these actions represent all Iraqi's, or all Arabs, or all Muslims, aren't you just realizing that there isn't much difference between what "the people" believe and what "the terrorists" believe? All that p.c. stuff of saying "just because you agree with a terrorist, doesn't make you one" is a foolish way to combat these sentiments. I mean compassion is nice, but wake up. Look at Arabic TV, look at the books that are popular, look at their opinion of the West, and THEN look at what happened in Somalia.
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Originally Posted by mburbank
Or do the people of Fallujah really, really hate us, to a degree we can't even comprehend?
You can't occupy a place that hates you this much, you can't steer it toward democracy. This isn't greeting us with flowers. This is what comes from sewing the wind.
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The British did just fine for years, and the argument that the region was more stable isn't too farfetched. The "Occupation" isn't the reason they hate us. They're very vocal about why they hate us, we just want to pretend it's for more deserved reasons. You can't occupy a place that hates you that much and try to be delicate about it. That's what it comes down to. Removing ourselves from the Middle East wouldn't change anything but the confrontational aspect.... because the hatred in the Middle East isn't just in the Middle East.[/quote]