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Old Feb 25th, 2009, 04:10 AM       
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your doctrines are contradictory ;\

anyway, if making sacrifices is the ultimate form of morality, then everybody should just kill themselves in order to be the most good. The most good.
I think it is implied that sacrifice has to come with a purpose.

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Communism is becoming a slave to the community. It also isn't a moral system, it's a political system. Also, it's not for the benefit of everybody, but for the benefit of the weak. "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
Politics is the morality of laws. Someone important said this. I forget who.

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People don't go to war to make sacrifices. They go to war to survive, to conquer, to enforce their values on others, and to sack.
I guess it would depend on how you view the war; however, regardless of how it is viewed, the Soldier is dying for his community.

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That isn't what capitalism is, but whatever. Is it better to enforce a poor or weak system of morality than to allow people the freedom to be strong?
You said that morality can't exist without the freedom to make your own choices, but you are saying that capitalism is immoral because it lets people make their own choices instead of forcing people to make pre-approved choices?
Capitalism is an amoral system, but in a sense it is what enables people to act morally by giving them choice in the matter.

Communism is a morally superior doctrine but... It cannot actually be morally superior because it takes away the choice of the individual.

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Excellent kantian argument. The problem is, those who are "Weak" are usually capable of being strong. Even some of the weakest men can pick up a gun and shoot their enemies, or keep their money instead of giving it to a charity. Remember in the bible when the poor woman donates money, even though its almost everything she has, its considered strength because of how weak she actually is. She is sacrificing more of her strength than a rich man. What is this.. uhhh utility.. exchange... ill remember the name.. marginal utility exchange.
You are right, by and large; they are then strong in spirit and courageous people as normally others are unwilling to do this.

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by a similar principle weak people have the most to gain by picking up a gun, but they don't. Thus, a bigger sacrifice.
shrugamcshrug

If people only sacrifice to be higher than other people, then they are just being vain.
You are correct -- the intent of a moral act should be to do something right for right's sake and not to achieve recognition.

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so how does this all fit into shaving your head and listening to crappy angry music?


because that's what's really important
Well, yeah.

I guess if you shave your head and listen to angry music... You get closer to the entire romance of militarism and self-sacrifice.
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