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[Gabby GaGa]

are you seriously saying that women are not manipulative?

As the owner of a penis, and most likley a credit card,
you should know otherwise.

Men aren't manipulitive.
Violent, yes.
they lie occasionaly.

But manipulation would imply some sort planning.
Men aren't planners. They're compulsive by nature.

If you don't think that women manipulate,
you have some tough lessons to learn with future relationships.

So a woman manipulates a few people, and a man savagely murders a few or some other cliche -

There have been sever serial killer women.
Women tend to be more emotionally driven,
which means they aren't as likley to kill.

However, a females emotions may be so strong to the point of horrific murder.
Take, for example, Lizzie Borden

She hacked her family, sisters, mother, to death,
cut of cody parts, and decapitated one.

I agree, though, men are a just as cruel as women. But in different way.

Women are usually concerned with the feelings of others. So while they may be manipulating behind your back, they still aren't intent on hurting men, and want to make their misdeeds lesser, just to help the male. When women know they've done something wrong, they are more inclined to feel genuine guilt.

Men on the other hand, will perform harmful acts, with disregard for females.

Women do alot of shit behind your back.
because they're great manipulators,
you never find out.

and what the fuck are you using the bible as culpability for what male and female social structures are all about?

ah, every great argument has contained the word "fuck" in it.
Again,
I didn't so much use the bible
as i did the concept of adam and eve. Everyone knows who they are.
while I dont believe in the bible,
I enjoy it as a story.
If you read it even once you would have noted that it contains alot about human nature,
some pieces of which are still true today.

I win
you lose.

[Jeanette X]

Originally Posted by Gabby GaGa

If you don't think that women manipulate,
you have some tough lessons to learn with future relationships.

Is this how you handle your relationships? Manipulate?

Originally Posted by Gabby GaGa

I'll point out, on the architecture bit, that women were the insperation for most greek architecture.

Yeah...those Doric columns...the fluting....so seductive...

Do you realize that you're arguing with a female, about whether or not females are manipulators?
Don't you think that I might have some inside information? After all, I am speaking from the FEMALE perspective.
You percieve through the masculine view. You're the one getting duped.
So you honestly believe that women are these sweet little creatures that don't have a manipulative thought go through their head?

I'm female, and I think that you're one sick puppy with a very, very twisted wordview.

How's that for a female perspective, sugartits?

There have been sever serial killer women.
Women tend to be more emotionally driven,
which means they aren't as likley to kill.

Wha?...Being more emotional makes you less likely to kill? Aren't most murders committed in a heat of passion?

She hacked her family, sisters, mother, to death,
cut of cody parts, and decapitated one.

She only killed her Mom and Dad. She didn't kill any siblings. And I've never heard of her cutting out body parts. (This is assuming that was her and not the maid) Once again, you display a woeful lack of knowledge on subjects you claim to understand.

Originally Posted by Gabby GaGa

Its a good poem, and you know it.
You just want to be argumentitive.

ITS A GOOD POEM! YOU KNOW IT! YOU'RE JUST MEAN! WAAAAAHHHH!

[Gabby GaGa]

Is this how you handle your relationships? Manipulate?

Damn, have you missed the point of everything I've said?

Yeah...those Doric columns...the fluting....so seductive...

sarcastic comments don't fly well with logic and philosophy.

I'm female, and I think that you're one sick puppy with a very, very twisted wordview.

your half-assed psuedo-intellect lesbian opinion dont mean shit to me.

Wha?...Being more emotional makes you less likely to kill? Aren't most murders committed in a heat of passion?

emotionally driven people are controlled more by their adolecence-engraved morals.
and no, most murders are premeditated or accidental.

She only killed her Mom and Dad. She didn't kill any siblings. And I've never heard of her cutting out body parts. (This is assuming that was her and not the maid) Once again, you display a woeful lack of knowledge on subjects you claim to understand.

my bad. I was thinking of someone else. Still, you know the old song
"lizzie borden took an axe, and gave her mom 40 whacks,
and when father saw what she'd done, she gave him fourty one"

Im actually more inclined to believe her sister commited the acts. Why? Because there was a prime example of a sweet little girl. She was in the house, incedently. But i dont want to get into that, the subject is off hand.

ITS A GOOD POEM! YOU KNOW IT! YOU'RE JUST MEAN! WAAAAAHHHH!

It's a good poem, and you are illiterate.

So? Whites are statsitically more frequent shoplifters than blacks, but it hardly means that whites are more manipulative than blacks.

shall I remind you that the whites enslaved the blacks? Or perhaps, that they coerced the Native Americans into trading their land for a glass bead?
I dare you to find a race more maniuplative then the whites.

As for the women being the instigator of break-ups, again, I say....SO?! Did you ever stop to think of why the woman might want to break up with a man? Maybe he doesn't treat her with respect? Maybe he's even manipulative towards her?

women are spasmatic in that respect because they can fly off the wall at any given moment. Their expectations are too high from watching romance movies and reading harlequin books, and worst of all, i believe, is a particular trait. The famouse

"im pissed at you john"

john: "why?? what did I do?"

chick "if you don't know, then I'm not telling you"

So, you want to know what I DO like about women?
Let me begin to list.
They're comforting and solace, and provide the world to us. They create and maintain life.
They often prevent the male irrational side from taking over (when their man is pissed at a neighbor, a bar fight, etc.) In some cases they'll listen and offer condolence when no one else in the world will.

It doesn't mean they aren't bitches at times.

As for kahl,
Let me administer Phase I of your ass kicking.

If i bore you so much, why won't you leave me the fuck alone?

Okay, Jaenette. Ill fight you to the bitter end.

[kahljorn]

Yea great point gagonacaca, oh wait except i said im STARTING TO GET BORED WITH HER AND I CAN USUALLY MAKE FUN OF STUPID PEOPLE ENDLESSLY. Do you know what TENSES are? apparantly not.

Gagonacocka, don't talk about logic and philosophy. You commit more logical falacies (or maybe phallacies in your case) than anyone i know. In this thread alone it looks like you're guilty of Red Herrings, Ignatio Errechi, circumstantial ad hominem and probably a few others.

Most murders are commited by "Accident"? Isn't that MANSLAUGHTER? lol. dumbass.

Whites are the most manipulative race?
That's retarded. What about the black people who sold their black brothers to america? What about the egyptians who had slaves as well... just because white people had slaves and treated people like shit doesn't mean they are ALL necessarily inherently as per the genes manipulative jerks. Correlation does not equal causation. Another logical fallacy of sorts.
Plus, WHITE PEOPLE CAN BE MEN, AND MOST OF THEM WERE MEN, AND IF IT WAS MOSTLY WHITE MEN WHO MANIPULATED BLACKS AND NOT WOMEN THEN YOUR ENTIRE ARGUMENT IS NOW BUNK SO SHUT UP. BECAUSE, If white men enslave blackmen/nativeamericans, and enslaving them is manipulative, and enslavig in that fashion makes them the "Most manipulative race", then Whitemen are the most manipulative period. Unless you want to claim it was the white WOMEN who were behind all that slavery. Which they weren't. I guess this is another argument we can chalk up as over, even as far as your own retarded self-refuting arguments go. Aren't self-refuting arguments technically "Illogical"?
It sickens me that you think race and sex are THIS important as to behaviorisms. You know, biological causes for defiance were pretty much thrown out the window over 20 years ago. Good job living in the past for someone who supposedly has a BA.

Emotional people are driven by adolescent mores? What does that have to do with her question? Another logical fallacy. I get the relevance it has, but I think you ignored its relevance.

Women can fly off the handle at any moment? You mean, they can kill in the heat of passion? k

Women are bitches sometimes, so it means they must all be manipulative bitches?

I'm sorry gagagagaga you just don't know w hat you're talking about. You're too far below mediocrity to ever be impressive. Except maybe to idiots, I bet you impress idiots all the time.

[kahljorn]

Here's a Nietzsche quote for you:
"Exploitation... pertains to life."

lol he must've been talking about the WOMENS lives, only.

[Jeanette X]

Originally Posted by Gabby GaGa

Damn, have you missed the point of everything I've said?

There was a point?

sarcastic comments don't fly well with logic and philosophy.

You have no sense of humor.

your half-assed psuedo-intellect lesbian opinion dont mean shit to me.

Pseudo-intellectual, I can see how you'd think that. But lesbian? Where did that come from?

It's a good poem, and you are illiterate.

*stomp* *pout* Its a good poem! ITS A GOOD POEM! YOU'RE JUST TOO STUPID TO GET IT!

and no, most murders are premeditated or accidental.

You once again show an amazing lack of knowledge of something you think you know about. Murder is the unlawful and INTENTIONAL killing of one human being by another. Killing some accidentally isn't murder. Homocide, yes, but not murder.

shall I remind you that the whites enslaved the blacks? Or perhaps, that they coerced the Native Americans into trading their land for a glass bead?
I dare you to find a race more maniuplative then the whites.

Aha. So you aren't just sexist, you also indulge in a little bit of reverse racism too. Scrumptius.

women are spasmatic in that respect because they can fly off the wall at any given moment.

Maybe you're a walking timebomb, darling, but I'm usually pretty steady.

Their expectations are too high from watching romance movies and reading harlequin books,

Is this a little bit of personal experience I hear? Is someone...bitter?

and worst of all, i believe, is a particular trait. The famouse

"im pissed at you john"

john: "why?? what did I do?"

chick "if you don't know, then I'm not telling you"

Have you ever read Men are From Mars, Women are from Venus? I'm not so sure if this is really an attempt at manipulation, rather a communications breakdown when the woman percieves insensitivity on the man's part when he doesn't intuitively recognize what she believes to be visible and plain.

Okay, Jaenette. Ill fight you to the bitter end.

BOMBS AWAY!