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Old Mar 3rd, 2003, 12:20 PM       
A moment, and I'll get it. But by your definition, you just lied. That quote was widely reported at the time, you know absolutely the one I'm referring to and you choose to act as if you don't to make some sort of point. You are a liar.
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Old Mar 3rd, 2003, 12:25 PM       
REALLY!?

I'm glad you said that because I think the quote was about role models and had nothing to do with politics.

Maybe I'm IGNORANT of the quote you are speaking of or maybe the quote your thinking of doesn't exist but either way, I'm not lieing.
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Old Mar 3rd, 2003, 01:00 PM       
"When quizzed by NBC anchor Tom Brokaw about his choice of Jesus as his favorite political philosopher, Bush responded: "When you accept Christ as your savior, it changes your heart, it changes your life."
-Businessweek

"GOP presidential candidates name the philosopher or thinker who had the most influence on their lives, as asked during Monday night’s debate.

Steve Forbes: John Locke and Thomas Jefferson.
Alan Keyes: The Founding Fathers.
Gov. George W. Bush: Jesus Christ.
Sen. Orrin Hatch: Abraham Lincoln, Ronald Reagan and Jesus Christ.
Sen. John McCain: Founding Fathers and Theodore Roosevelt.
Gary Bauer: Jesus Christ."
-abcnews.com

"Mr. Bush is not a great debater. He hasn't even shown himself to be a good debater. In the primary debates he looked like he was sliding down in his chair so teacher wouldn't notice him. And when he tried to speak candidly, saying for instance that Jesus was his favorite philosopher, he couldn't explain why except to assert that Christ had changed his heart, which seemed both believable and inadequate."
-Peggy Noonan

"George W. Bush cited Jesus as his favorite political philosopher."
Joseph Loconte, American Heritage Foundation

"The question was posed by the moderator at an early Republican presidential debate in 1999: "Who is your favorite political philosopher?" George W. Bush surprised, if not stunned, his fellow candidates when he tersely declared, "Jesus Christ, because he changed my life."
-Douglas Groothuis, ChristianityToday.com
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Old Mar 3rd, 2003, 01:05 PM       
O.K., I guess I was refering to the debates. Jesus was indeed a thinker.

That doesn't really have to mean politics.
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Old Mar 3rd, 2003, 02:31 PM       
The question was not "who is your favorite thinker". The question was "Who is your favorite Political Philsopher" To which G.W. not to mention Keyes and Hatch responded "Jesus Christ".

When you said you would answer direct questions, you were lieing.

Again and rephrased:

Was Jesus a Political Philosipher?

Were W, et al. wrong to say that? Where you wrong to describe Jesus as 'not into politics'. Why is it so hard for you to answer this question? I think it is becuase you find Doubt an almost unbearable condition.
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Old Mar 4th, 2003, 09:10 AM       
I think you're trying to look too deep into this.

Let me ask you a question. Were all of your sources from the same event?

If so, I would have to see a transcript because they contradict each other.

ABC news said "thinker". And some of the others say political philosopher. Where they two seperate events?
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Old Mar 4th, 2003, 01:00 PM       
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Originally Posted by Chojin
Come to think of it, the only thing I really remember from the bible is that chapter where Jesus puts a hat on a snowman and it comes to life.
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Old Mar 4th, 2003, 01:12 PM       
Ooooooh,

So Christian.
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Old Mar 4th, 2003, 01:58 PM       
They were all the same event and you are prevaracating. Am I looking to deeply or have you now avoided about half a dozen chances to answer this direct question. Do you think Peggy Noonan got the quote wrong? You know who she is, right?

Face it, Nalds, you're like the xperiment with the baboob and the equi-distant food dishes. You are incapable of saying you were wrong but equally incxapable of saying W was wrong. It's got nothing to do with 'looking deeply'.

Jesus. Political Philosipher or not?

Naldo: Con.

Bush, Keyes, Hatch: Pro.
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