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Old Apr 3rd, 2008, 04:52 PM       
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Indeed. And now, as if summoned by magic, we have PJ here to illustrate the point for me.
Well actually, the point you stated was that Californian/LA natives say "Southern California is God's gift". I didn't say that. I said Socal is slightly dirty and sleazy compared to Northern and is definitely a big smoggy city in all it's glory. Northern California, specifically the Sacramento area (the area, not the city itself) is a great place to live. I know, because I lived there and am desperate to move back.

And maybe Californian natives do think California is awesome because we live there and thus have some experience. It's kind of a stupid mentality to have that enables you to think that the phrase, "You people only like it because you live there!" makes sense. And as I said before, I've visited Florida, New England, Texas, and all the irrelevant states in between as well as some of Europe, and I can say most of California blows them away.

That's awesome if you don't agree with me though. Stay where you are by all means; the state is crowded enough with people who have seen the better side of life. I was just trying to give my honest assertion and recommendation to the OP.
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Old Apr 3rd, 2008, 04:56 PM       
I went to California. I'm an actor and I wanted to see if it was a place I could stand to live while I tried to make it, if I were so inclined. I didn't like it ;(

I don't know what it is, but something about it just rubbed me the wrong way. I've lived on the east coast my whole life and while the weather and the In-n-Out burgers are GREAT, I just couldn't picture myself actually living there.
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Old Apr 3rd, 2008, 05:28 PM       
In all honesty, my only regret about California is that I didn't move here sooner. There's just sooooo much to see and do out here. When I lived in Richmond, 99% of the time, I'd end up sitting around and watching a movie at somebody's house. Don't get me wrong, that can be fun 'n all, but it does get old doing the same exact thing every week. L.A. is such a huge city that seemingly goes on forever, so there's always something to do no matter what you're into.

The weather, as somebody already stated, is pretty much as perfect as it gets with virtually no humidity. I remember whenever I went outside for a measly 5 minutes on a hot summer day back when I lived on the East coast and I'd always feel like I needed to change my shirt because I was already drenched with sweat. That just doesn't happen out here. I'm definitely a big fan of the weather here.

As far as food goes, I'm definitely more of an East coast fan... but having lived in New York and Philadelphia, I've had some of the best food in the world. Food is pretty much great everywhere you go in the tri-state area back East. Out here, however, you really have to search. It's a gargantuan city with a fuck ton o' restaurants, and many of them have little to nothing good to offer. That's not to say there aren't awesome places to eat out here, you just really gotta try a lot of places until you find 'em. Having been here over 2 years now, we've found some fantastic places to eat at. It took a while, but I now know what places to go if I want a damned good Philly cheesesteak or a perfect giant slice of real New York style pizza. It was just hard having to eat all the sub-par stuff in our long journey to find the good places. If you like seafood, however, you'll be set out here. There's a LOT of good seafood places out here.

Traffic is definitely bad if you're somebody who has to commute on the highways. The best thing you can do for yourself as a SoCal resident is to a) learn all of the local backroads instead of taking the over-congested highways and b) live close to where you work. Do this, and the traffic will be a non-issue. Oh, and don't drive a Hummer, that's another suggestion.

As far as jobs go, there are a ton of opportunities out here if you're interested in working in the entertainment industry. Kinda goes without saying. That being said, the economy is utter shit right now, so even out here, the job market isn't too great at the moment.

My favorite thing about California would have to be just exploring it. It's such a big state and, though it's cliché sounding, it's completely unlike any other one in the country. I want to stab my eyes out from boredom after driving up the East coast for any longer than an hour. In California, however, I can drive for 8 hours straight and still not be bored. The oceans, the mountains and all the quirky places in between... there's just a whole lot to see.

I've also been to San Francisco a lot, and I used to imagine it was the greatest place in the world before I came out here. When I lived back East I always thought I'd end up in San Francisco... L.A. never even crossed my mind until I came and visited a friend who lived here and it completely changed my outlook on the place. San Francisco is a cool place and I love how absurdly hilly the city can be. Definitely a unique place, no doubt about it. There are some cool shops there 'n all, but I just don't understand why the cost of living there is so absurdly expensive. I can understand it being expensive in places like L.A. and NYC, but San Francisco just doesn't seem to have anywhere near as much to offer. Plus, the weather there can go from fairly nice to complete ass in the blink of an eye... no joke. It's a nice city to visit and perhaps with some extra time spent there I'd like San Fran more, but so far, I've yet to see why some people are so gaga about the place.

I've been to San Diego a lot as well, and it's definitely the cleanest city I've ever been too and I always look forward to being there for the Comic-Con. That being said, I wouldn't want to live there. It may be clean, but other than the Comic-Con, there's not a whole hell of a lot to do there unless all you like doing is hanging out at bars and making occasional trips to Sea World.

Like any city, L.A. has its ups and downs, the truly interesting people and the truly moronic ones... you just gotta take the time to get to know it all. I've said it before and I'll say it again: this is easily the best place I've ever lived and it's honestly hard for me to imagine living anywhere else because I can't think of a place with as many fun things to see and do (with the possible exception of NYC). The beaches, the countless quirky shops, UCB's amazingly affordable comedy shows & classes, Amoeba Music (the greatest and largest music/dvd store in the country), killer revival theaters like the New Beverly Cinema, insanely cool arcades... and that's just barely scratching the surface.

In summation: ME LIKEY WHERE I LIVE.
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Old Apr 3rd, 2008, 07:41 PM       
Out of dedication to fair play, truth, and righteousness, I would like to take this opportunity to remind everyone of the 100% accurate and totally provable fact that Northern Californians have a genetic predisposition towards trailers, mobile homes, really shitty weed and incest, with this predisposition growing exponentially for every mile traveled north of San Francisco, culminating in Jefferson County.

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Old Apr 3rd, 2008, 09:41 PM       
California was ruined for me ever since my brother moved there.

Seriously, I visited him about 2-1/2 years ago (he lives off Castro in downtown SF) right before his surgical procedure (no, it's not what you think, either, so shut up.). It was the first time I had a chance to see his house, which was pretty nice, I admit. Generally the neighborhood was cool, there was a movie theater, a corner grocery & a wine store (what are the odds?) less than two blocks away, and a great deal of classic-looking buildings, slowly being spruced up; all told, it's a pretty sweet setup.

I can't ever see myself living there, though.
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Old Apr 4th, 2008, 12:11 AM       
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I assume the same thing. I live in Humboldt County, and it's still expensive. I can't imagine living in the regular part of CA.
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Old Apr 4th, 2008, 12:21 PM       
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And maybe Californian natives do think California is awesome because we live there and thus have some experience. It's kind of a stupid mentality to have that enables you to think that the phrase, "You people only like it because you live there!" makes sense. And as I said before, I've visited Florida, New England, Texas, and all the irrelevant states in between as well as some of Europe, and I can say most of California blows them away.
If you'll go back and read what I said, you'll see that I said my problem isn't that people from California like California, it's the people that act like it's the best state there is, and love to bring it up in conversations with other Californians. When I lived in Illinois, there were people who loved Illinois, but they didn't feel compeled to bring up their love in conversation, and neither were they compeled to talk about how the other states had nothing else to offer.

And here you are, proving that people in Northern California can be just as obnoxious as all the empty-headed fodder wandering around Southern California. I admit it was presumptuous of me to assume it was a phenomenon limited to LA County.



Also, as for your claim that you were only trying to give your opinion:

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Old Apr 4th, 2008, 12:58 PM       
Getting back to the original question, the biggest problem with California is that the entire state's infrastructure is crumbling and nobody gives a flying fuck. Temporarily, it's a decent enough place to stay but I would not recommend sticking around for the long term.
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Old Apr 4th, 2008, 01:54 PM       
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If you'll go back and read what I said, you'll see that I said my problem isn't that people from California like California, it's the people that act like it's the best state there is, and love to bring it up in conversations with other Californians. When I lived in Illinois, there were people who loved Illinois, but they didn't feel compeled to bring up their love in conversation, and neither were they compeled to talk about how the other states had nothing else to offer.

And here you are, proving that people in Northern California can be just as obnoxious as all the empty-headed fodder wandering around Southern California. I admit it was presumptuous of me to assume it was a phenomenon limited to LA County.

Also, as for your claim that you were only trying to give your opinion:
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Dr. Boogie, please read my posts and try to comprehend them completely before posting vitriolically soaked responses.

I don't feel compelled to insert my love for California into every conversation as you assert. I do so only when people ask the correct questions regarding the state. For instance, when the OP of this thread asked everyone's opinion about California! And there must be something to it when every British native I talk to asks me where I'm from, I simply respond "California" and they retort with wide eyes, "Why the flying fuck are you here??" I've also never said in person or in my posts that the other states have nothing to offer. I just merely stated what I (and now Rog himself) have personally have experienced. That no other state offers as much and as many plusses with so few negatives as California does.

Addtionally, I never pretended or claimed to be giving my opinion. In fact, my quote was, "I was just trying to give my honest assertion and recommendation". Assertion and recommendation; not opinion.
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Old Apr 4th, 2008, 02:07 PM       
Spent most of my life in Southern California, but moved to Pennsylvania two years ago (parents wanted cheaper housing).

I'm surprised by the people saying that people in Southern California are obsessed with how great their state is, I never really noticed that. If anything, what I have noticed is that whenever I bring up that I used to live in California, I am asked "Seriously? Why the hell did you move here?"

To the guy that said you shouldn't go to Orange County unless you want to be around a bunch of bible-thumping republicans: Seriously? I lived in Orange County, and there are republicans, certainly, but I would hardly consider them bible-thumping. Try moving to Berks County in Pennsylvania, and then say that the republicans in Orange County are bible-thumping.

I like California more, personally. There is loads to do, great weather (seriously, never realized how lame humidity is), and where I was living, the people were more chill.

I can't stand rural areas, I much rather prefer cities.

Downsides: Expensive as all hell, loads of illegal immigrants, some parts need to be avoided due to crime (though the same could be said for every state with a high population).
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Old Apr 4th, 2008, 02:10 PM       
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Yes, California is awesome, but you have to be careful because there are some very unawesome parts. Generally speaking, Southern California is not awesome except for very specific parts of LA and San Diego. Unless you're a complete Bible thumping Republican I would recommend staying out of Orange County or Northern San Diego County. I guess one of the worst things about a lot of California is the cost of living, but if you have a good job then I guess that doesn't really matter. The weather is usually amazing, but depending on where you live, you'll be stuck in traffic too much to enjoy it. But what do I know, I live (when I get back to CA) an hour south of the Oregon border. I'll probably have to move to LA or San Diego for grad school though.
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