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Old Feb 21st, 2008, 06:09 AM        Weekly Movie Review: Diary Of The Dead
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Old Feb 21st, 2008, 07:50 AM       
day if the dead sounds like an unacceptable approach to a zombie movie, if they're going to have a "spider-man type zombie" why not do a movie on the marvel zombie comics. Diary of the dead sounds interesting, but either way, I hope that it is better than the remake of "return of the living dead" that came out afew years ago where the super zombies, were normal zombies with weapons for limbs. Nemesis from Resident evil would tear those things apart. Either way, keep up the good articles ROG.
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Old Feb 21st, 2008, 09:23 AM       
Land of the dead was smack on with the ideas and concepts that George Romero was trying to communicate with his movies. The real tragedy is that most folks spent more time gargling over the Zombies then actually understanding what Romero was talking about in his movies. However, that being said, Diary just seemed way too fucking unessisary. Sometimes you have to let good things lie and finish off as they were.
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Old Feb 21st, 2008, 09:50 AM       
Just like the guy in Dead Alive who kicked ass for the Lord, unconventional zombie fighters are always the most awesome.

I want to see a montage of Samuel doing his Amish zombie fight training in an Amish zombie fighting dojo.

We need to get back to the slow-moving, ever-creeping zombies. Those were cool. Sure, you could run away from 'em. You could kill 'em easily, often in very creative and fun ways. But over time the fun always wore off, and you'd be swamped with fucking zombies everywhere. Slow as they moved, there were always just more, more more. That's why they were so fucking scary. They didn't startle you, they didn't surprise you, they just didn't stop and didn't leave you alone. That's what made 'em scary: just when you thought you were king of the fucking zombies, some slow-moving, half-rotted security guard would bite your shoulder, and you were fucked.
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Old Feb 21st, 2008, 10:47 AM       
I saw this with my wife and enjoyed it...
until after I got home. I started thinking about all the stuff it lacked (i.e. the zombie attacks, less bickering, etc...) and just wish Romero could do what Zack Snyder did with his re-imagining of "Dawn of the Dead".
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Old Feb 21st, 2008, 03:31 PM       
I am not a fan of Land of the Dead, but this is the man that gave us Night of the Living Dead. So I will at least give Diary... a chance.

I still remember thinking how awesome the Resident Evil movie was going to be when Romero was attached to direct it. That entire franchise could have been his baby for the 21st century....<sigh> oh well.
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Old Feb 21st, 2008, 04:15 PM       
I liked Land of the Dead. It wasn't nearly up to the quality of Dawn, Day, or Night (isn't that kind of ironic that Nght, in all it's black and white glory is better than the one with the biggest budget and arguably the best special effects?).

I'm super keen to see Diary, but i'm not expecting something as classic as Dawn or Night.
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Old Feb 21st, 2008, 04:15 PM       
Something that's always struck me as stupid in zombie movies...why does shooting them kill them? Bullets kill living people by organ trauma or blood loss. A zombie is not alive, they aren't pumping blood or using their organs. Is this more a matter of the pathological American idea that all problems can be solved with guns?

Besides, how are zombies supposed to move? Organisms not undergoing metabolic processes (i.e. living) cannot generate new adenosine triphosphate (ATP), which powers nearly all cellular reactions by releasing the energy stored in its phosphate bonds. The binding of ATP to the myosin-actin filaments of the sarcomere (the fundamental unit of muscle) allows dissociation of actin and myosin allowing contraction or relaxation. When ATP is exhausted (at death, since oxidative phosphorylation coupling to ATP synthase ceases), the actin-myosin associations in the sarcomere are unable to be broken, resulting in rigidity (rigor mortis) which lasts several hours until degeneration of the sarcomeres either by spontaneous denaturation or by bacterial decomposition occurs. But even then, there's no ATP to power further contractions--which at best would only give you paralyzed, floppy zombies.

Another thing that sucks about zombie movies now, is the bullshit attempts to explain the cause of the zombies. In the good old days, it was curses or evil magic that reanimated the dead. Now, zombies (as well as werewolves and vampires) are attributed to "viruses." This is ridiculous. Viruses do 2 things: lytic viruses (like influenza) hijack the cell's ribosomal machinery to make more copies of itself until the cell dies, and latent viruses (like herpes)insert themselves as a DNA provirus into the host cell's genome and sit tight. Sometimes they are triggered into a lytic phase by cellular stresses. Latent viruses are linked to cancer, as they insert randomly into the cell's genome, and if they insert into the middle of a tumor supressor gene, that can result in cancer. Some latent viruses produce proteins (viral oncogenes) that closely mimic enzymes involved in cell cycle regulation, but are constitutively active, inducing uncontrolled cell division and cancer. Some viral proteins bind to and inhibit tumor supressor proteins (as HPV does, which causes over 99% of all cervical cancer). However, to even attempt to believe that a virus is capable of making people immortal, altering them morphologically, or giving them super powers is absurd.
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Old Feb 21st, 2008, 04:38 PM       
saturnknight, actually, there is supposedly a Marvel Zombies movie being planned... let's hope they don't fuck it up.

incognit000, yeah I'm alllll about the slow moving zombies. Zombie that run, jump, crawl on walls or perform any other absurd stunts just don't work for me. That's one good thing about Romero though, he hates running zombies too and sticks with the slow, foot-dragging zombies that we've all grown to love.

Marthaeus Autolykos, I dunno man, I think you're trying to apply too much logic and reasoning to movies which, by definition, require you to suspend your disbelief and just have some stupid fun. As for killing zombies, I always understood them to be functioning on the lowest level - ie: just enough brain activity to make them move and desire to feed like an animal. And that's why you gotta shoot 'em in the head... you kill the brain, you kill the desire to feed. I do agree to some extent about the virus thing though... I always loved the classic depiction of zombies coming from voodoo, such as the Haitian zombies. The Serpent and the Rainbow handled this subject extremely well, and I recommend it to everybody.
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Old Feb 21st, 2008, 06:02 PM       
I actually enjoyed the movie. Felt like an old classic style movie, although it could have used more zombie attacks. Its very much worth checking out; not nearly as much political jabber as Land of The Dead did.
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Old Feb 21st, 2008, 07:56 PM       
Am I the only one here that hated the DAwn of the Dead remake?
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Old Feb 21st, 2008, 09:36 PM       
George Romero is the father of modern zombie movies but what he's really lost in his movies is the connection to the characters. in Night of the Living Dead you really connected with all the characters and wanted them to triumph over the zombies but in his later movies you just wanted the zombies to eat some brains. And by the way they should definitely make a movie of the comic Tales of The Zombie.
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Old Feb 21st, 2008, 10:39 PM       
i hope they don't mess it up either, i love my Zomby movies, the gorier they are, the better, but the last ones that came out... i won't waste my time on. "Flight of the living dead" is one such movies, i saw an article in a magazine i own, and i thought it was rediculous. You should try a review on "Wrong Turn 2". i know the movie is over the top in gore and death, and i know that it was made as a money vacume... but it has Henry Rollins, and that dude kicks ass in the movie, i didn't find it a good movie, but when you see rollins light a stick of dynamite and stuff it down the pants of a mutated red-neck hick before it blows up..... it's fricking awsome!
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Old Feb 21st, 2008, 11:16 PM       
land of the dead and the new dawn of the dead were his perfection.
honestly, he should have stopped there and basked in the glory forever.
of course he's got bills.
poor him.
but you make a good point.
amish vas zombies.
they wouldnt know it was coming because they dont have radios or tv,
but theyd haev tons of hand tools for it.
so itd be frikken awesome.
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Old Feb 21st, 2008, 11:59 PM       
I still can't get over that "Are We Dead" question. What did George say to that? Did he laugh and humor the guy or did he bicycle kick the dude's head off like the rest of us would've? Anyway, how long has the movie been out? Do you think George will show up back here in Pittsburgh to watch it or has he done that already?
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Old Feb 22nd, 2008, 03:22 AM       
Oh, come on Rog! The new Day of the Dead remake has Nick Cannon! You know it has to be good if it has Nick Cannon!

Seriously though, directors need to stop reusing the titles of good movies to make some quick dough.
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Old Feb 22nd, 2008, 10:11 PM       
saturnknight's idea is good; instead of that "remake" just make a Marvel Zombies movie!
Maybe with Ash!
Maybe making it a GOOD one with Ash, where he wins amazingly well; like he has to in the Evil Dead thingies.
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Old Feb 23rd, 2008, 11:46 AM       
That would be great. I found that although there was some funny parts to Army of Darkness vs. Marvel ZOmbies (they actually gave ASh new dialogue instead of puking up lines from AoD!), I thought it was a lame crossover since Ash couldn't actually duke it out with any superpowered zombies. DAmn continuity, always ruining our fun!
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Old Feb 23rd, 2008, 06:05 PM       
i liked the AoD vs. Marvel Zombies comic, it was an interesting experiment, i think it worked out pretty well.

on a toattly unrelated note, -RoG-, I found the Steven Seagal Lightning Bolt energy drink at Wal-Mart. Not sure why I'm telling you, just thought you'd like to know, i've never seen it there before. I have experienced the mighty Goji Berry, and it feels good.
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Old Feb 23rd, 2008, 10:13 PM       
Saturn-Any movie that has Henry Rollins in it is worth watching. He's just that friggin' awesome. Same thing goes for Bruce Campbell. I assure you if Glenn Danzig ever chose to be in movies, he would also fit the bill for "perpetually cool".
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Old Jul 2nd, 2008, 06:44 PM       
Really late to this one, but I liked it. The main characters were really annoying (except the professor, I liked him) and bitchy, but everyone they came into contact with were pretty sweet (especially Samuel. You're quite right, I'd definitely pay to see a movie about him). The downloaded videos from other cameras (the soldiers in the apartment, for instance; sort of a nice little throwback to the original Dawn, that's what I think) were also very cool, as they gave some interesting perspectives.

So while I liked this one and think it's a pretty decent zombie movie, it's certainly the weakest of the series (though I should point out I really liked Land of the Dead). And you're dead on about the Day of the Dead remake; the fact that they even put the name of one of the greatest zombie movies ever (with Bub!) on it is a travesty.
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