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Nick · #26

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Originally Posted by Schimid

I wasn't complaining about the story in B-K. In fact, I'm doing the exact opposite--it's stupid. It always has been. The characters are great, the art direction is great, the music is great, the story is insipid. Whether or not this is on the console I own has nothing to do with it, I played the demo at Chojin's house and just didn't like it because it wasn't what I enjoyed. Not much else to say. Sure, I'm upset that they did it, but I'm sure it's a really good game otherwise, it's just not Banjo-Kazooie. If I had a 360 or if it were on Wii, sure I'd buy it. I like the franchise. Hell, I'd enjoy it too. But it wouldn't be what I wanted.

Using an outrageous example, remember Metal Gear Acid? How it was a card game, right? Okay, imagine that happening, but that's it. They don't continue making MGS games on the side, they don't keep on with the series established foundations, they completely flip the chessboard and decide to play checkers. Third-person stealth is out, everyone make room for parlor games.

I also never said that the game "wasn't right" for the 360. There's definitely a market for everything. I'm just saying let's not kid ourselves; do you think a cartoonish action/adventure/platform game is going to do better on the Wii or 360? Note that I said BETTER, not WELL.

Also Zomboid, what in your mind constitutes a valid complaint? That you can't play said game in HD whilst rolling in your caddy? That you need to shoot some niggas? Inquiring minds want to know.

Maybe I'm overstating my anger here, because I'm not flying into hysterics or boycotting the game over the change. I'm just disappointed.

I also invite Nick to eat a metric ton of dicks at his leisure.

Why you illin' dawg.

Ant10708 · #27

Its alot of fun and since I pre ordered it I can enjoy the OG Banjo on my xbox for free

HappyHamster · #28

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Originally Posted by Zomboid

Caddys and niggas? What?

GTA, I think. Makes sense to me, kinda.

Schimid · #29

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Originally Posted by Zomboid

Well, I don't know what to tell you. I've never been a huge banjo-kazooie fan, but I did enjoy the first one. Them changing things up causes you to dislike it, but you'd still buy it and enjoy it? I can kind of understand that you're upset with the changes, but it sounds like they're minor problems at best if you'd still buy and enjoy the thing.

Who knows if they're gonna keep the changes, though? They'll probably just gauge fan and critic reaction to this one and go from there. Don't jump to conclusions.

Yeah, it would probably do better on wii, considering how many wii owners are children, but who cares? Nintendo doesn't own rare and now there's another kid-friendly game on the 360. Everybody wins :D...Except wii owners.

Your complaints weren't valid because you pretty much just said "I DON'T LIKE IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE SAAAAME!" Here, you elaborated and made a good point or two. Now we have a better idea of what you were saying. Also, what the fuck are you even implying? Caddys and niggas? What?

Edit: Jeff's a dumb fuck. That also needed to be said.

They're minor problems about major changes. Yeah. What's hard to grasp about that? Furthermore, what's so rage-ignitingly argumentative about that?

You're absolutely right, I should instead wait until the next one comes out to see if my qualms were justified or not. Why voice complaint now when you can tomorrow, I always say.

Wii owners don't win anymore, yeah.

What? How are my complaints not valid because the game isn't the same? Was it wrong of people to criticize Kingdom of the Crystal Skull? I didn't see it and I don't like Indiana Jones, but from what I understand it was terrible and bore little resemblance to the first few movies other than the characters. You can argue that the other movies were GOOD and this one wasn't (which apparently isn't the case, as this game is pretty good) but you could also not argue that point so please don't. Point being, I don't see what's wrong with not liking something because it's not the same as something else.

I like platforming, not LEGO games. I like house, not speedcore. Your socialist attitude of accepting all games is frightening and quite frankly bears a strong resemblance to communism.

Jeff, if you're trying to get me to consider the worth of a game, I'm not entirely sure if comparing it to Mario's most widely panned outing is a good idea.

Nick, if you're going to eat those dicks, you'd better shake a leg. A ton is a lot. Why are you on the internet? There are dicks to be eaten.

pac-man · #30

It was me, not Jeff, and Mario's "most widely panned" game was not Sunshine. It was very well reviewed, a great game, and contained a gameplay mechanic that was new to the series. I won't be surprised when folks say the same of Nuts & Bolts.

HappyHamster · #31

Goddammit, Schimid.. Is it really that bad that the same (dare i say it, boring) gameplay isnt presented here in the same way? Is that really so bad?

And for the love of all living creatures, stop with your insults...they're just horrible.... "Eat dicks", dear god, at least be creative.

And while pac-man enjoyed Mario Sunshine, I did not... But my opinion doesnt instantly make that game bad. Good on them for trying something new, it just didnt stick with me. You get what Im saying?

Schimid · #32

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Originally Posted by pac-man

It was me, not Jeff, and Mario's "most widely panned" game was not Sunshine. It was very well reviewed, a great game, and contained a gameplay mechanic that was new to the series. I won't be surprised when folks say the same of Nuts & Bolts.

But it wasn't like other Mario games. That's all I'm saying. And you're kidding yourself if you don't think Sunshine is considered the worst 3D Mario game. Sure I liked it, but come on.

Hahah. My bad. You're all the same to me.

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Goddammit, Schimid.. Is it really that bad that the same (dare i say it, boring) gameplay isnt presented here in the same way? Is that really so bad?

And for the love of all living creatures, stop with your insults...they're just horrible.... "Eat dicks", dear god, at least be creative.

And while pac-man enjoyed Mario Sunshine, I did not... But my opinion doesnt instantly make that game bad. Good on them for trying something new, it just didnt stick with me. You get what Im saying?

I didn't say it was bad, cunt. I said it wasn't what I wanted.

Am I not saying the exact same thing you said there? That the game will most certainly be good and will sell well? What piece am I missing here? Is it your crusading attitude, out to rid the land of all naysayers? I think so!

And if you'd rather I be original, may I then invite you to assist Nick in eating said dicks. There are a very many dicks and while his appetite for big dicks is clearly beyond mortal limitations, I'm certain he would appreciate the help. Perhaps you can treat yourself to dessert of each others dicks.

Nick · #33

Hey guys, it looks like Zomboid has set off a bomb in Schimid's trousers.

pac-man · #34

Super Mario Sunshine received critical acclaim by game reviewers. IGN praised the addition of the water backpack for improving the gameplay,[28] and GameSpy commented on the "wide variety of moves and the beautifully constructed environments".[29] The game received a perfect score from Nintendo Power, who commented the "superb graphics, excellent music, clever layouts, funny cinema scenes and ingenious puzzles."[30] GamePro also gave Super Mario Sunshine a perfect score, stating that the game was "a masterpiece of superior game design, infinite gameplay variety, creativity, and life."[4] The American-based publication Game Informer said that the game is arguably "the best Mario to date."[31] ComputerAndVideoGames.com also mentioned the game is "better than Super Mario 64."[21]

Nope, not kidding myself.

Schimid · #35

Good game, worst Mario game. Wikipedia at me all you want, I'm right.

pac-man · #36

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Originally Posted by Schimid

Good game, worst Mario game. Wikipedia at me all you want, I'm right.

Hotel Mario.

No wiki necessary for that.

You're wrong.

Nick · #37

Mario is Missing, Mario's Time Machine.

HappyHamster · #38

Calm down mister high and mighty, this here is the internet.

Oh, more dick eating? Are you serious?

Schimid · #39

Hotel Mario is fucking great you rodent. And you know what I meant, I said 3D before, etc. etc. eat dicks

Nick · #40

All 3D Mario titles are inferior to the 2D titles.

HappyHamster · #41

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Originally Posted by pac-man

Super Mario Sunshine received critical acclaim by game reviewers. IGN praised the addition of the water backpack for improving the gameplay,[28] and GameSpy commented on the "wide variety of moves and the beautifully constructed environments".[29] The game received a perfect score from Nintendo Power, who commented the "superb graphics, excellent music, clever layouts, funny cinema scenes and ingenious puzzles."[30] GamePro also gave Super Mario Sunshine a perfect score, stating that the game was "a masterpiece of superior game design, infinite gameplay variety, creativity, and life."[4] The American-based publication Game Informer said that the game is arguably "the best Mario to date."[31] ComputerAndVideoGames.com also mentioned the game is "better than Super Mario 64."[21]

Nope, not kidding myself.

I feel that I should say this... While I personally did not like the game as much as Id like to have, the game itsself is still amazing. The jetpack was a very nice new addition and I have yet to see better environments.
See what I did there? I didnt like the game but I still appreciate its existance.

HappyHamster · #42

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Originally Posted by Schimid

Hotel Mario is fucking great you rodent. And you know what I meant, I said 3D before, etc. etc. eat dicks

Oh...ohh! Something smells fishy here....

Schimid · #43

I wish Zomboid would come back, I'd rather bat paws with him than do mortal combat with the homo horde.

HappyHamster · #44

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Originally Posted by Schimid

I wish Zomboid would come back, I'd rather bat paws with him than do mortal combat with the homo horde.

You're trying to hard now. Back with ye

pac-man · #45

Insults are cute and all, but what I don't get is why someone who owns a Wii would be against gimmicky changes.

Nick · #46

Meh, he's just being nitpicky.

HappyHamster · #47

So wait, was he really complaining about how cars are now making Banjo Kazooie "not the same"?

I mean, I got upset with Sonic and all (:D) but even I can appreciate the change to an extent...

Zomboid · #48

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Originally Posted by Schimid

They're minor problems about major changes. Yeah. What's hard to grasp about that? Furthermore, what's so rage-ignitingly argumentative about that?

You're absolutely right, I should instead wait until the next one comes out to see if my qualms were justified or not. Why voice complaint now when you can tomorrow, I always say.

Wii owners don't win anymore, yeah.

What? How are my complaints not valid because the game isn't the same? Was it wrong of people to criticize Kingdom of the Crystal Skull? I didn't see it and I don't like Indiana Jones, but from what I understand it was terrible and bore little resemblance to the first few movies other than the characters. You can argue that the other movies were GOOD and this one wasn't (which apparently isn't the case, as this game is pretty good) but you could also not argue that point so please don't. Point being, I don't see what's wrong with not liking something because it's not the same as something else.

I like platforming, not LEGO games. I like house, not speedcore. Your socialist attitude of accepting all games is frightening and quite frankly bears a strong resemblance to communism.

Jeff, if you're trying to get me to consider the worth of a game, I'm not entirely sure if comparing it to Mario's most widely panned outing is a good idea.

Nick, if you're going to eat those dicks, you'd better shake a leg. A ton is a lot. Why are you on the internet? There are dicks to be eaten.

It just seems like you're nitpicking with this game for some reason. It not being what you expected, and that being a major problem for you doesn't really seem like a problem when you go on to say that it's a good game, NAW MEAN? I can understand if you're saying that you like it as something other than banjo-kazooie, but even then, games change. There hasn't been a new banjo-kazooie in quite a while so it's more of a reboot than going from a string of successful, recent games and then suddenly changing the formula.

As I said, complaining that the game isn't the same as the old ones isn't really valid in this case because the last game came out on what? The n64? That's a couple generations of consoles ago. Kingdom of the Crystal Skull just sucked in a lot of different areas. It's impossible to limit the one reason for it being totally fucking awful on it not being the same as the others in the series.

I don't like all games, and I don't like when a successful series suddenly takes a hard turn towards something else entirely, but when there's such a huge gap in between the games, you're kidding yourself if you think it'll be the exact same thing. I haven't played it, but it at least LOOKS almost exactly as I remember it. If it's still the same cartoony platformer, it can't have strayed TOO far.

Schimid · #49

Yeah, I guess you're right in that it's been a really long time. I think the time lapse is also what makes it so disheartening, to hear that a new B-K is coming out and getting all hyped and it's, uh, this. I'll admit I never thought of it that way. I've always loved platform games and to take away one of my favorites, sure it's upsetting. I loved it for what it was, and now it's different, is all. Good, but different.

I don't really consider it nitpicking because I'm not complaining about a new character, a small design choice, a level, anything like that...this is what the entire game is based around now, which is a pretty big shift. I can certainly enjoy it for the game that it is, but not as a B-K game I know and wanted, which is probably my biggest gripe.

HappyHamster · #50

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Originally Posted by Schimid

Yeah, I guess you're right in that it's been a really long time. I think the time lapse is also what makes it so disheartening, to hear that a new B-K is coming out and getting all hyped and it's, uh, this.

I don't really consider it nitpicking because I'm not complaining about a new character, a small design choice, a level, anything like that...this is what the entire game is based around now, which is a pretty big shift. I can certainly enjoy it for the game that it is, but not as a B-K game I know and wanted, which is probably my biggest gripe.

Then what did you want exactly? For it to be just like all the other Banjo Kazooie games?