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Old Apr 29th, 2010, 05:04 PM       
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Old Apr 29th, 2010, 05:05 PM       
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Old Apr 29th, 2010, 08:40 PM       
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Unofficially there is about 25-30% national unemployment in the USA. They always cook the books. People are living in tent cities (Hoovervilles / Obamavilles), people are taking drastic pay cuts, the production base of the USA is completely destroyed by "Free Trade" agreements. Unions are being broken (without unions there is no middle class),

Investment banks (foreign and domestic) have taken trillions of dollars in "bailout" money because of their toxic deriviatives. Other banks are going bust. I believe 20+ banks went under in the last week.

I think its safe to say we are in a full blown world depression. It's effected almost every nation on the globe.

and It's all because of investment houses and their derivative paper which I may add was illegal at one time.
Look, as an objectivist, I dislike Obama's policies more then pretty much anyone. That being said, even I don't buy what you just said. Saying "Unofficially unemployment is at 20-30%" isn't saying shit. I unofficially get 15 blow jobs a week if I count thinking about them during masturbation, but it doesn't count. Just like pay cuts do not count as unemployment.

Also blaming the housing bubble alone on the current state of the economy is rather short sighted. This has been a long time coming. It has been building up to a slow boil since the early 90s. There have been a few bubbles besides housing in that time that have in their own way, contributed to this mess. All the bubble has done has moved from one event to another, growing a little bigger each time. Any one thing alone would have meant little overall, but trying to cushion all of these smaller bubbles (housing included) led to this mess.

In conclusion, 10% unemployment does not, a depression make
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Old Apr 29th, 2010, 08:48 PM       
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5 percent more is much higher? you know there is 50% unemployment in some individual states? Detroit is one of them.
The most astonishing part of this fact is Detroit is (apparently) a state now

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Are we in a depression?
Nope. You read it here twice. Which makes it the Gospel according to i-Mock.

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Old Apr 30th, 2010, 10:13 AM       
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Saying "Unofficially unemployment is at 20-30%" isn't saying shit.
We all know they cook the books. It's a fact of life. We have very high unemployment in this country with little or no manufacturing base. I'm not saying anything that hasn't already been talked about since the depression began.



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Also blaming the housing bubble alone on the current state of the economy is rather short sighted.
I'm not blaming the housing bubble on the world economic depression. Maybe idiots like Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity do because it's a big reactionary lie that they have to keep repeating but as I said before it's the 1.5 QUADRILLION dollars of financial speculative derivative paper which is unregulated and almost to an extent untraceable unless Goldman Sachs and the other investment bank parasites opens their books to government banking regulators.




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Nope. You read it here twice. Which makes it the Gospel according to i-Mock.
What's the old saying?

When my neighbor looses his job its a recession.....when I loose my job it's a depression. You'll see.
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Old Apr 30th, 2010, 11:24 AM       
Both my neighbor and I have our jobs. Hell my best friend who is a lazy fuck has a job. We might not be prospering but its hardly a depression.
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Old Apr 30th, 2010, 01:51 PM       
Don't worry, Coolie. Eventually you will be proven right, and just like Cassandra from Greek Mythology, everyone who didn't listen to you will suffer the consequences.
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Old Apr 30th, 2010, 01:55 PM       
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Don't worry, Coolie. Eventually you will be proven right.
Ummm....Eventually?

Have you seen the stock market lately? Bailouts? Wage cuts? Please tell me, I need to know, how do you guys get so detached from reality? Or are you just disagreeing with me so we have something to haggle about?
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Old Apr 30th, 2010, 01:57 PM       
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Please tell me, I need to know, how do you guys get so detached from reality? Or are you just disagreeing with me so we have something to haggle about?
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Old Apr 30th, 2010, 02:01 PM       
401k's have taken a huge hit as well.
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Old Apr 30th, 2010, 03:38 PM       
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Ummm....Eventually?

Have you seen the stock market lately? Bailouts? Wage cuts?
Dude that was SOOOOO last year. Get with the times man.

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401k? IRAs are where its at son.
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Old Apr 30th, 2010, 03:54 PM       
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401k? IRAs are where its at son.
Can't deny that. Gold backed IRA's are even better.
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My IRA is up 40% from last year.
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Old Apr 30th, 2010, 04:22 PM       
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IRA's are different than 401k's
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Old Apr 30th, 2010, 04:51 PM       


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Old Apr 30th, 2010, 04:55 PM       
401k's and other investments tied to derivatives will be smashed the minute the bailouts stop coming. How long can it go before it completely crashes? Any bets? I say 1 more year until the DOW goes below 8,000
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Old Apr 30th, 2010, 05:03 PM       
The amount of cash my derivatives are worth has incresed by 40% between the end of last month and the end of last year. Or over the period of three months it has grown a substantial amount. That warrants a on my part.
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The amount of cash my derivatives are worth has incresed by 40% between the end of last month and the end of last year. Or over the period of three months it has grown a substantial amount. That warrants a on my part.
I have a strange feeling you still don't understand the meaning of derivatives, speculative paper, instruments, toxic assets, etc etc.....lambs to the slaughter.
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lambs for the slaughter.
I love how someone who is constantly wrong is so full of himself.
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I love how someone who is constantly wrong is so full of himself.
What was I wrong about?

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Old Apr 30th, 2010, 05:12 PM       
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