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Carnivore · #**101**

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Originally Posted by Daphne

Carnivore, I don't post in threads where you talk about eating meat and put you down, so why do you feel the need to be so pushy about your beliefs? You like meat, you eat it and that's great for you, but why do you care so much that other people don't? If we like animals, and choose not to eat them, it's just more for you, right?

If there were no vegans, you'd have nothing to bitch about, so you should thank us

Such threads are few and far between, if you can find one at all. I can think of no such thread in recent history.

I really don't care if you're vegan. I consider it unnatural, but do what you want.

Using terms like cruelty-free, however, implies that those who don't subscribe to a vegan lifestyle are cruel. And a vegan withholding meat from a non-vegan while working in a restaurant is basically forcing your beliefs on others. It would be like me dipping your tofu in pig fat.

My life philosophy is that you can do whatever the hell you want so long as it doesn't adversely affect another person. You can smoke so long as I don't have to inhale it. You can be a religious extremist so long as you don't push your beliefs on me. You can own a dozen assault rifles so long as you don't shoot at me. You can be a vegan so long as I can continue to eat meat without being bothered.

glowbelly · #**102**

nobody was bothering you.

you came in here saying that you were bitchy or something because you were tired and attacked daphne for using a term that she believes in.

you bothered yourself.

so settle down and go take a nap.

MLE · #**103**

as i said in my first post on the subject, you can certainly take the supplement, but it has to have a certain enzyme in your stomach for it to be processed, and that enzyme isn't there if a certain animal product (i'm not sure what) isn't eaten at the same time. some pill supplements do work, but it's because they have a form of that animal product in them, and strict vegans won't take it anyways. i certainly agree that b12 is the only known nutrient that's missing.

also, i wouldn't worry too much about the b12 thing at the moment. if you end up with a deficiency, it can be turned around pretty easily. it's just a pain in the butt. it can take years to develop, or just a few months. it depends on the person. later on, i'm sure you're going to have to supplement your diet, but it can take years before the need arises.

the article i posted is more for reference so you know you're getting what you need, and not trying to change your minds on anything. as i said before, i just want you all to be healthy.

Carnivore · #**104**

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nobody was bothering you.

Don't presume to tell me what bothers me.

Daphne · #**105**

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Originally Posted by Carnivore

Using terms like cruelty-free, however, implies that those who don't subscribe to a vegan lifestyle are cruel. And a vegan withholding meat from a non-vegan while working in a restaurant is basically forcing your beliefs on others. It would be like me dipping your tofu in pig fat.

I see what you mean about 'cruelty free' and I apologize for the implications. I didn't see it that way. I don't think people who eat meat are cruel, but I do wish that animals in slaughterhouses were treated better.

I also agree with what you said about withholding meat (sorry Drumming!). If you don't like it, don't work there, but don't do things like that.

Off topic, I made my husband a steak for valentine's and he made me vegan fudge. It was like the gift of the magi