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Old Sep 8th, 2006, 06:07 AM        Genocide in Gaza
I better not say anything bad towards israel's actions out of fear of being called an anti-semite. Those 1.5 million palestine islamofacists? They all had contacts with Iran, Libya, North Korea and Syria.

'Gaza is a jail. Nobody is allowed to leave. We are all starving now'

By Patrick Cockburn in Gaza

Published: 08 September 2006

Gaza is dying. The Israeli siege of the Palestinian enclave is so tight that its people are on the edge of starvation. Here on the shores of the Mediterranean a great tragedy is taking place that is being ignored because the world's attention has been diverted by wars in Lebanon and Iraq.

A whole society is being destroyed. There are 1.5 million Palestinians imprisoned in the most heavily populated area in the world. Israel has stopped all trade. It has even forbidden fishermen to go far from the shore so they wade into the surf to try vainly to catch fish with hand-thrown nets.

Many people are being killed by Israeli incursions that occur every day by land and air. A total of 262 people have been killed and 1,200 wounded, of whom 60 had arms or legs amputated, since 25 June, says Dr Juma al-Saqa, the director of the al-Shifa Hospital in Gaza City which is fast running out of medicine. Of these, 64 were children and 26 women. This bloody conflict in Gaza has so far received only a fraction of the attention given by the international media to the war in Lebanon.

It was on 25 June that the Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit was taken captive and two other soldiers were killed by Palestinian militants who used a tunnel to get out of the Gaza Strip. In the aftermath of this, writes Gideon Levy in the daily Haaretz, the Israeli army "has been rampaging through Gaza - there's no other word to describe it - killing and demolishing, bombing and shelling, indiscriminately". Gaza has essentially been reoccupied since Israeli troops and tanks come and go at will. In the northern district of Shajhayeh they took over several houses last week and stayed five days. By the time they withdrew, 22 Palestinians had been killed, three houses were destroyed and groves of olive, citrus and almond trees had been bulldozed.

Fuad al-Tuba, the 61-year-old farmer who owned a farm here, said: "They even destroyed 22 of my bee-hives and killed four sheep." He pointed sadly to a field, its brown sandy earth churned up by tracks of bulldozers, where the stumps of trees and broken branches with wilting leaves lay in heaps. Near by a yellow car was standing on its nose in the middle of a heap of concrete blocks that had once been a small house.

His son Baher al-Tuba described how for five days Israeli soldiers confined him and his relatives to one room in his house where they survived by drinking water from a fish pond. "Snipers took up positions in the windows and shot at anybody who came near," he said. "They killed one of my neighbours called Fathi Abu Gumbuz who was 56 years old and just went out to get water."

Sometimes the Israeli army gives a warning before a house is destroyed. The sound that Palestinians most dread is an unknown voice on their cell phone saying they have half an hour to leave their home before it is hit by bombs or missiles. There is no appeal.

But it is not the Israeli incursions alone that are destroying Gaza and its people. In the understated prose of a World Bank report published last month, the West Bank and Gaza face "a year of unprecedented economic recession. Real incomes may contract by at least a third in 2006 and poverty to affect close to two thirds of the population." Poverty in this case means a per capita income of under $2 (£1.06) a day.

There are signs of desperation everywhere. Crime is increasing. People do anything to feed their families. Israeli troops entered the Gaza industrial zone to search for tunnels and kicked out the Palestinian police. When the Israelis withdrew they were replaced not by the police but by looters. On one day this week there were three donkey carts removing twisted scrap metal from the remains of factories that once employed thousands.

"It is the worst year for us since 1948 [when Palestinian refugees first poured into Gaza]," says Dr Maged Abu-Ramadan, a former ophthalmologist who is mayor of Gaza City. "Gaza is a jail. Neither people nor goods are allowed to leave it. People are already starving. They try to live on bread and falafel and a few tomatoes and cucumbers they grow themselves."

The few ways that Gazans had of making money have disappeared. Dr Abu-Ramadan says the Israelis "have destroyed 70 per cent of our orange groves in order to create security zones." Carnations and strawberries, two of Gaza's main exports, were thrown away or left to rot. An Israeli air strike destroyed the electric power station so 55 per cent of power was lost. Electricity supply is now becoming almost as intermittent as in Baghdad.
The Israeli assault over the past two months struck a society already hit by the withdrawal of EU subsidies after the election of Hamas as the Palestinian government in March. Israel is withholding taxes owed on goods entering Gaza. Under US pressure, Arab banks abroad will not transfer funds to the government.

Two thirds of people are unemployed and the remaining third who mostly work for the state are not being paid. Gaza is now by far the poorest region on the Mediterranean. Per capita annual income is $700, compared with $20,000 in Israel. Conditions are much worse than in Lebanon where Hizbollah liberally compensates war victims for loss of their houses. If Gaza did not have enough troubles this week there were protest strikes and marches by unpaid soldiers, police and security men. These were organised by Fatah, the movement of the Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, also known as Abu Mazen, which lost the election to Hamas in January. His supporters marched through the streets waving their Kalashnikovs in the air. "Abu Mazen you are brave," they shouted. "Save us from this disaster." Sour-looking Hamas gunmen kept a low profile during the demonstration but the two sides are not far from fighting it out in the streets.

The Israeli siege and the European boycott are a collective punishment of everybody in Gaza. The gunmen are unlikely to be deterred. In a bed in Shifa Hospital was a sturdy young man called Ala Hejairi with wounds to his neck, legs, chest and stomach. "I was laying an anti-tank mine last week in Shajhayeh when I was hit by fire from an Israeli drone," he said. "I will return to the resistance when I am better. Why should I worry? If I die I will die a martyr and go to paradise."

His father, Adel, said he was proud of what his son had done adding that three of his nephews were already martyrs. He supported the Hamas government: "Arab and Western countries want to destroy this government because it is the government of the resistance."

As the economy collapses there will be many more young men in Gaza willing to take Ala Hejairi's place. Untrained and ill-armed most will be killed. But the destruction of Gaza, now under way, will ensure that no peace is possible in the Middle East for generations to come.

The deadly toll

* After the kidnap of Cpl Gilad Shalit by Palestinians on 25 June, Israel launched a massive offensive and blockade of Gaza under the operation name Summer Rains.

* The Gaza Strip's 1.3 million inhabitants, 33 per cent of whom live in refugee camps, have been under attack for 74 days.

* More than 260 Palestinians, including 64 children and 26 women, have been killed since 25 June. One in five is a child. One Israeli soldier has been killed and 26 have been wounded.

* 1,200 Palestinians have been injured, including up to 60 amputations. A third of victims brought to hospital are children.

* Israeli warplanes have launched more than 250 raids on Gaza, hitting the two power stations and the foreign and Information ministries.

* At least 120 Palestinian structures including houses, workshops and greenhouses have been destroyed and 160 damaged by the Israelis.

* The UN has criticised Israel's bombing, which has caused an estimated $1.8bn in damage to the electricity grid and leaving more than a million people without regular access to drinking water.

* The Israeli human rights group B'Tselem says 76 Palestinians, including 19 children, were killed by Israeli forces in August alone. Evidence shows at least 53 per cent were not participating in hostilities.

* In the latest outbreak of violence, three Palestinians were killed yesterday when Israeli troops raided a West Bank town in search of a wanted militant. Two of those killed were unarmed, according to witnesses.
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Old Sep 8th, 2006, 12:40 PM       
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Old Sep 8th, 2006, 04:47 PM       
I agree, waging a genocidal war against Israel has resulted in hellish living conditions.
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Old Sep 9th, 2006, 12:08 PM       
Am I supposed to care about Palestinians and Israelis?

Why?
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Old Sep 9th, 2006, 02:34 PM       
Because they got them some caucasian looking people who eat red meat out there too?
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Old Sep 10th, 2006, 02:19 AM       
Hey, look! Maybe he's beginning to realize that a false sense of ethnic superiority is a double-edged sword!

I thought I'd augment the topic by an invitation to the Mock Wars, since this is bound to end up there as Chojin pointed out.

I'm really tired of people, most especially Americans, bitch about the UN not ever doing anything because they never bothered to understand how it's actually supposed to function. Even so, the UN is in sad shape. Again, mostly America's fault... there isn't supposed to be a superpower. Then again, I would LOVE it if they actually did something about Israel. I don't think that all Jews should be kicked out. I think the walls should be torn down, and proper respect given to the fact that half the world's population claims religious lineage from the land. (For that matter, everyone besides Sub-Saharan Africans can claim evolutionary lineage from the Levant.) Have a totally multi-national consulate established as the local governing body and encourage as much diversity in the landscape as possible. Allow free access to the place for peoples of all backgrounds. Fuck, turn it into giant Disneyland of Faith. Redistribute the lands so as to not allow for any ethnic majority, but generously compensate them for it as to make their inevitable bitching seem trite.

One thing, though. If America were to do this by itself, we're all fucked. Yeah, yeah, we'd have to listen to Fundamentalist America talk about how we're establishing the end times, but they'd do that no matter what. The important thing is that we learn to not take Israel's transgressions as lightly as we are now, and to actually set up a viable precedent for taking Militant Islam's transgressions as seriously as we already do.
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Old Sep 10th, 2006, 03:12 AM       
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Because they got them some caucasian looking people who eat red meat out there too?
Why do I care if they're caucasian?

Caucasians are just as dumb as everyone else, on average (no matter what asshats like Arthur Jenson say).
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I'm really tired of people, most especially Americans, bitch about the UN not ever doing anything because they never bothered to understand how it's actually supposed to function. Even so, the UN is in sad shape.
Ratifying the UN treaty was one of America's biggest mistakes.
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Old Sep 10th, 2006, 03:55 AM       
That's logical. Remove the regions only patch of religious harmony, and equality.

Unfortunately even if you wiped Israel off the map, much the way the UN has fantasized (http://www.eyeontheun.org/view.asp?l=21&p=142#02) Gaza would still be the same pit it is today. People forget that the infrastructure they're screaming they're being deprived of didn't even exist before Israel provided them with it. Electricity grids? Running water? Not in Gaza, not before 1967.

it was Israel who re-established Jerusalem as a destination for ALL major religions, and that's a fact. You can ask the Arab shop keepers in Jerusalem just how things changed in 1967... or maybe some of the Palestinian youths who worked on the archealogical digs. Meanwhile it's the Waqf who continues to chisel away at the Temple Mount, and it's the Arab's who preach about destroying religious sites. They've managed to run the Christians out in every village they control, and true to their word, they've desecrated many of the religious sites once they've gained control. In 2000 Joseph's Tomb was burned, and converted into a Mosque. Another Ancient synagogue in Jericho was burned down the same week. The Church of Nativity was sieged by Fatah gunmen in 2002. Rachel's tomb is under continous gunfire attack. The Waqf intentionally removed 13,000 tons of archealogical rubble to dig a tunnel for their new underground mosques. So now the Southern wall is near collapse, and the Waqf continue to systematically erase any trace of ancient Hebrew, Canaanite or Christian artifacts.

Who gave the Waqf control over their portion of the Temple Mount? The Knesset issued a law( http://www.templeinstitute.org/holy_places_law.htm ) safeguarding the holy places from desecration, and it was the first time in generations that Jews could pray on the site.Bethlehem was well on it's way towards becoming the first stop of a Holy Land amusement park complete with North Star laser light shows....then the Christian populations in Palestinian territories dwindled to less then 2%. What little of a new wave of emigration for Christians there's been can be credited to Israel's influx of Russians and some weird denominations from the US. In 1948 there was 1 mosque in Bethlehem, and now there are 90. Wherever there was a Christian stronghold, there is now a big mosque. Didn't Muslims get as far as laying foundation for the largest mosque in the world that would intentionally compete with the Basilica?
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Old Sep 10th, 2006, 10:52 AM       
Geggy, what's your opinion on the genocide in Darfur?
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Old Sep 11th, 2006, 12:53 PM       
"If you genocide me, I'll genocide you back" Seems like a new term for "war" is "teh OMG you are teh racist"

No one complains that EGYPTS gaza wall is also closed off. Also this "prison wall" is the countries BORDER! That's like saying us putting up fences is making Mexico a prison, it's not our responsibility that your country is poor.

And as for the war, maybe if you wouldn't "genocide" women and children for 40 years every damn week people may not want to kill your terrorists.

What kind of world is it where just cause you hate someone of a different race everyone believe you hate them BECAUSE they are a different race? I say kill terrorists regardless of race.

As for the injured civilians, maybe you should blame the people who think wars have "bring your kid to work" day. Stop launching attacks from inside schools and we'll stop bombing them.

"Mexico is a jail, no one is allowed to leave, we're all starving"
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Old Sep 11th, 2006, 12:58 PM       
Reverand hissy pants - I can't tell you why you should care, but there are reasons why you as an American should be concerned, even if you are void of a basic empathy towards humanity. Are you aware that Hamas include the name of the Rotary Club in their charter? They're one of the top 3 terrorist groups operating in this country. That seems like a pretty concrete reason to care.
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Old Sep 11th, 2006, 10:05 PM       
Ever wonder why Hamas is illegal in Australia? For all their "humanitarian" what not they are terrorists.

If 53% of the dead are women and children I say this, don't use your children as shields. This is one of the reasons I can't support the Tamir Tigers. I 100% support their goals, but their methods are awful, they set up base in a girls school which last month was attacked by the government WHILE in session causing the deaths of 40 little girls and the injuries of 70 more. And the government was very worng to do it but the tigers should not set up base with human shields.

Oh and the attacks on Israelis target women and children 100%. How's that 53% number sound now? With no military around for miles they attack women and children EXCLUSIVELY! Imagine that attack the Sri Lanken government did on the rebels int he little girl's school WITH NO REBELS! Cause that's what Hamas does EVERY GOD DAMN WEEK!
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Old Sep 12th, 2006, 06:51 AM       
Kevin I admit I'm conflicted when it comes to the issue of darfur genocide in sudan and I don't know enough to comment on it. I'm 90 percent sure it has nothing do with religion, instead it's all politics and business. I agree there should be increased american military presence if the us government is really concerned about making a world a better and safer place to live. The situation is much worse there than in Iraq and afghanistan prior to the invasion combined. But I know china won't let them because it would hinder their relationship with sudanese government in oil business and they benefit from the genocide. UN are too corrupted and too focused on serving their self interest to do anything about the situation in sudan. I'm not clear why the genocide itself is happening though. Same thing with rwanda. Its relevant to me the purpose of the genocide in gaza is for israel to take land and expand the state of israel like they've been attempting to do so in past god knows how long.
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Old Sep 12th, 2006, 03:42 PM       
What self interests do you think the UN is acting on? Destroying Israel that's what. They are disproportionately fixated. No problem sending UN troops to Lebanon, but Darfur? Not a chance. The only ethnic cleansing going on in Gaza is the one where 9,000 Jews were removed from productive integrated societies, so that Israel could hand over the land Jewish-free.

"the purpose of the genocide in gaza is for israel to take land and expand the state of israel like they've been attempting to do "

Then explain why Israel's map is shrinking?
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Old Sep 13th, 2006, 01:28 AM       
Because the freedom fighters have successfully fought off the hordes of zionists pigs. DUH!
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Old Sep 17th, 2006, 07:23 PM       
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What self interests do you think the UN is acting on? Destroying Israel that's what. They are disproportionately fixated. No problem sending UN troops to Lebanon, but Darfur? Not a chance. The only ethnic cleansing going on in Gaza is the one where 9,000 Jews were removed from productive integrated societies, so that Israel could hand over the land Jewish-free.

"the purpose of the genocide in gaza is for israel to take land and expand the state of israel like they've been attempting to do "

Then explain why Israel's map is shrinking?
must remember they think that ALL of israel is illegitamate, they belive every drop of sand belongs to them and jews have no right to live let alone in that area. If Israel said we will give you all land except for this one rock, they would call it a land grab cause they say Israel has no right to that land.
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