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Old Sep 26th, 2003, 06:52 PM        Streisand: The Myth of "Big Government"


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The Myth of "Big Government"

...Barbra Streisand

Posted on September 25, 2003

What is "Big Government?" We've been conditioned to believe these are bad words - but when Hurricane Isabel ripped through the East Coast last week, leaving many homes and businesses significantly damaged in its wake, Bush told disaster relief workers and governors of the affected states, "If you need help, let us know." This was not Bush showing his "compassionate" side... this is what the federal government does -it helps people in need. Contrary to Republican slogans against "Big Government" or "Tax and Spend Liberals," if you look at the reality, government spending is a key part of what makes this country function and provides the services that Americans both depend on and take for granted.

The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), the agency Bush extolled in the Southeast this week, is designed to help Americans in crises - be they victims of natural disasters, or victims of extreme poverty. Agencies such as FEMA are what make our country able to bounce back from tragedy and unforeseen events, just as schools educate our children, firefighters fight fires, police officers keep our streets orderly, a decent highway system allows us to move freely, national parks maintain our incredible natural resources, our military protects us from outside threats, the Center for Disease Control protects us from epidemics, and Social Security and Medicare programs insure that our seniors aren't thrust into poverty after so many years of hard work. These are just some of the basics of government. These are not entitlement programs. These are not excesses. These are not "special interests." This is what the government is supposed to do for you, the people.

So when Republicans, such as leading tax-cut proponent Grover Norquist, talk about reducing government to the size where they can "drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub," we need to examine what that world without government would look like. Do we want to live in a country without a legal system, without a military, without free education, without safety net programs? Is this the future most Americans actually want for their country?

We also have to understand the connection between taxes and spending. It is our taxes that pay for these services, so Bush's two big tax cuts for the wealthy will, eventually, result in a cut in the services that all Americans depend on everyday, unless the tax cuts are repealed. So far, Bush has been more or less coasting on a policy of tax cuts and spending increases, such as the additional $87 billion he now is asking Americans to shoulder for Iraq. Meanwhile, he has cut spending for state-administered programs - plunging state governments into crisis, and has created unfunded mandates with catchy titles, such as the No Child Left Behind Act. Bush is dangerously betting against the future... turning an enormous surplus into an enormous deficit that future generations will have to grapple with. Eventually, we will be forced to have a national discussion about either repealing the cuts or asking the question: What everyday government spending programs are we really ready to do without?
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Old Sep 27th, 2003, 02:38 AM       
Celebrities shouldn't talk so much, especially communists like Barbara Streisand.
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Old Sep 27th, 2003, 11:45 AM       
I LOVE how she tottallly debunked that stupid "Patriot Act" thing these crazy assholes keep talking about.
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Old Sep 27th, 2003, 01:57 PM       
No, Babs, govt isn't supposed to cure all your ills. The goverment isn't your babysitter; if you don't buy insurance and then your house gets destroyed in a hurricane, well too dam bad. You knew what you were getting into when you moved to that area.

She thinks that the big government talk means that we should not have a goverment at all. But then she is a liberal, so there is no suprise there.
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Old Sep 27th, 2003, 09:34 PM       
edit: nevermind.
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Old Sep 27th, 2003, 09:56 PM       
GRRRR. i'm trying to SAVE money so my boyfriend and i can get renter's insurance. there is a reason behind this that is a secret. SECRETS.

anyways, i think we should all go over to wherever it is that vince lives and, i dunno, make some kind of natural disaster happen. yeah.
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Old Sep 28th, 2003, 07:24 PM       
Great factually based article, Kevin.

I mean, the complete lack of opinion in it swept me off my feet.
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Old Sep 28th, 2003, 08:15 PM       
I posted it for laughs, jackass.
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Old Sep 28th, 2003, 08:32 PM       
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Old Sep 28th, 2003, 09:59 PM       
oh kevin, you aren't allowed to be funny.
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Old Sep 28th, 2003, 11:28 PM       
First of all, I HATE BARBARA STREISAND!!! She is a fucking media whoring BITCH!!!

Now that that is out of my system, I would like to pose yet another question to everybody's favorite bigot, VinceZeb.

Vince, if you were the victim of a natural disaster, or better yet, lets imagine even stranger that you are a good person. A good person that ended up down on your luck, not by your own faults, but by budget cutbacks. You lose your job, you end up in debt, and you eventually lose your home. It isn't your fault, but no-one is hiring because Boy George W. Bush caused the economy to crash and money is tight. Wouldn't you want the government to shell out and try to fix the problems that *gasp* THEY FUCKING CAUSED??!!

Oh, wait a second, you WOULD just let yourself be another victim of W's financial ass-raping of the country, wouldn't you? You would just sit back and take that big ole' load of shit the government is handing us as we speak. Excuse me while I go get my crap rations before they all run out. I'll read some Boortz, that should give me enough to last a year.
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Old Sep 29th, 2003, 05:47 AM       
Is it really necessary to make this thread about Vince? Again?
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Old Sep 29th, 2003, 11:33 AM       
In short, yes. Vinth has cut himself down to just this website. That means that his tennous existance depends on us. Like any creature made more of bile and ill humors than flesh and blood, he feeds on belief.

Our job is to keep him confined, yet alive, for study and entertainment, like a spiritual zoo animal.

On another note, I wouldn't care if La Barbara espoused only my exact words, she is loathesome beyond all belief.

Oh, and Vinth. Do you live outside of all hurricane pathgs or are you insured aginst hurricane damage? How about flooding? Forest fire? How insured are you? Or do you, as I've alway imagined, live in an undergroudn burrow?
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