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Old Apr 24th, 2007, 01:09 PM        Majority believes it's christianity vs islam holy war
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Muslims believe U.S. goal to weaken Islam: poll
Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:01am ET
By Michelle Nichols

NEW YORK (Reuters) - More than 70 percent of Egyptians, Pakistanis, Indonesians and Moroccans believe the United States is trying to weaken and divide the Islamic world, a poll released on Tuesday showed.

The survey by WorldPublicOpinion.org also showed more than 40 percent thought that was the primary goal of the U.S.-led war on terrorism, while only 12 percent believed Washington's aim was to protect the United States from attack.

"While U.S. leaders may frame the conflict as a war on terrorism, people in the Islamic world clearly perceive the U.S. as being at war with Islam," Steven Kull, editor at the Washington-based group, said in a statement.

The face-to-face survey, of between 1,000 and 1,200 people in each country from December to February, also found about 30 percent approved of attacks on U.S. military in Iraq, Afghanistan and the Gulf.

But 60 percent said suicide bombings were never justified and 67 percent believed Islam was opposed to attacks against civilians.

"Attitudes toward al Qaeda are complex. On average, only three in ten view Osama bin Laden positively. Many respondents express mixed feelings about bin Laden and his followers and many others decline to answer," WorldPublicOpinion.org said.

More than half believed al Qaeda's goals included achieving a strict application of Sharia law in every Islamic country, with more than 70 percent agreeing with that aim.

More than 50 percent believed the militant Islamist group was pushing the United States to remove its bases and military forces from all Islamic countries and 63 percent agreed with that goal.

But the poll found uncertainty about whether al Qaeda was responsible for the September 11 attacks on the United States in 2001. Some 20 percent believed the U.S. government was behind the attacks.

"On average less than one in four believes al Qaeda was responsible for September 11th attacks. Pakistanis are the most skeptical -- only 3 percent think al Qaeda did it," said WorldPublicOpinion.org.

"There is no consensus about who is responsible for the attacks on New York and Washington; the most common answer is 'don't know'."

More than half those surveyed believed the United States was trying to spread Christianity in the Middle East, while nearly 60 percent thought one of Washington's goals was to maintain control over the oil resources of the Middle East.
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Old Apr 24th, 2007, 01:30 PM       
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Old Apr 24th, 2007, 04:29 PM       
Maybe they read Ann Coulter.
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Old Apr 24th, 2007, 04:57 PM       
I'm a little pissed that it automatically has to be a about a poll and then wrote out of NY state, and people wonder why we get attacked. They keep pressing and pressing the issue more. I do understand that the truth should be known and obviously there was a flaw in their logic which caused world wide conspiracy.

But its already obvious that most the world believes that Bush had more to do with it than AL Quaida.

I'm just getting so tired of movies like 9/11 out in theaters and all the conspiracy theories that everyone only talks about constantly; It is if they can't rest if the drama goes away..
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Old Apr 24th, 2007, 05:08 PM       
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Old Apr 24th, 2007, 05:13 PM       
Uh yeah I just re-read that and it made no sense really to me. I need sleep :/

I think my point I was trying to say was just that living in NY thats all I hear is the new conspiracy theory about who was responsible for 9/11 and the movies that they made and shit for it. It seems to only cause more issues; Not just for NY but the entire country.
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Old Apr 24th, 2007, 06:26 PM       
Lenor, are you in New York City?
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Old Apr 24th, 2007, 08:04 PM       
Nope, thankfully! I am a little more upstate; where are you?
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Old Apr 24th, 2007, 10:41 PM       
Keep in mind the majority of people are stupid. and 1 in 4 are complete morons.

The smart people are a persecuted minority. especially in the South.
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Old Apr 24th, 2007, 10:52 PM       
You demonstrate this flawlessly.
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Old Apr 24th, 2007, 11:49 PM       
by my persecution I presume.

I like how about 30% approve of the insurgencey in Iraq.

Their approval rating is as low as ours.
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Old Apr 25th, 2007, 12:06 AM       
30% of Americans support attacks on American troops? Your statement makes no sense. The logical extension of citing that figure as an "approval rating" for the Islamic course of action operates under the assumption that Muslims are a homogeneous, politically united force. It's also ethnocentric, simplistic, and moronic. If anything, these polls flatly underline the opposite and prove that Arabs are more politically aware (if but tainted by their respective media) by the comparative lack of uniformity when seen against the flag-waving brainless masses.

Oh, and you're not persecuted because you're smart. You're not persecuted at all. You're just disliked because you make asinine posts, revel in your asinine life, and for some reason think we give a shit.
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Old Apr 25th, 2007, 01:04 AM       
Seth who are you referring exactly too as being persecuted?

This thread is fucked, we have dogboy talking about southerners; I was taking about NY, which last time I checked was North (technically North-east). Which also made no relevance to what I posted about my dislike for the abundance of shit being made out of 9/11 still.

If your trying to get at that people in NY shoot up people down south, well sure we shoot everyone thats our thing; ASK CANADA!

But does anyone else notice there are three separate discussions with ourselves going on in here? :/
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Old Apr 25th, 2007, 01:19 AM       
I was replying to Doggy boy. I don't see what this thread has at all to do with New York or 11.09.2001. It's about how the middle east perceives attitudes in American public policy.
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Old Apr 25th, 2007, 01:22 AM       
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But the poll found uncertainty about whether al Qaeda was responsible for the September 11 attacks on the United States in 2001. Some 20 percent believed the U.S. government was behind the attacks.

"On average less than one in four believes al Qaeda was responsible for September 11th attacks. Pakistanis are the most skeptical -- only 3 percent think al Qaeda did it," said WorldPublicOpinion.org.

"There is no consensus about who is responsible for the attacks on New York and Washington; the most common answer is 'don't know'."

More than half those surveyed believed the United States was trying to spread Christianity in the Middle East, while nearly 60 percent thought one of Washington's goals was to maintain control over the oil resources of the Middle East.
This is what my post were referring too.
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Old Apr 25th, 2007, 01:59 AM       
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Nope, thankfully! I am a little more upstate; where are you?
Hah! I'm in Manhattan.
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Old Apr 25th, 2007, 02:00 AM       
Upper or Lower east or west side?
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Old Apr 25th, 2007, 02:09 AM       
apparently we only have a choice of four neighborhoods in the city now
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Old Apr 25th, 2007, 01:42 PM       
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apparently we only have a choice of four neighborhoods in the city now
Now that might be funny, if I was asking for his specific address. Manhattan does not make the entire 'CITY', if he lived in Staten Island or Brooklyn than maybe he should of said that.

If you have an issue with me, bring it somewhere else. This isn't the place. Although its one of the most fucked up threads in the political forums EVER.

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Old Apr 25th, 2007, 04:54 PM       
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Now that might be funny, if I was asking for his specific address. Manhattan does not make the entire 'CITY', if he lived in Staten Island or Brooklyn than maybe he should of said that.

If you have an issue with me, bring it somewhere else. This isn't the place. Although its one of the most fucked up threads in the political forums EVER.

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first, chill.

second, when you live in the NYC area, "the city" almost invariably means manhattan rather than one of the boroughs.
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Old Apr 25th, 2007, 05:09 PM       
lol. I'm in Murray Hill, which is below Midtown and north of the East Village. Not a terribly thrilling place to live, but oh well.
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Old Apr 27th, 2007, 07:12 PM       
your not listening.

30% of them support the insurgencey.
30% of Americans support the war in Iraq.

It seems to me both sides are about to give up.
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