Secret of Mana

[James]

Guitar Woman hates games.

[Emu]

No, she just hates shit, like any decent American.

[Chojin]

I never liked Secret of Mana, but I don't remember it being hard. Go play battletoads and then tell us all about how hard rpgs are ;<

Oh and FF4 was one of my favorite games growing up but I can't play any of the final fantasies anymore ;< they're just awful to me now ;<

[Vampywampy]

Is this Battletoads? :<

[Supafly345]

Secret of Evermore, I'm telling you. Similar gameplay only much more fun.

[Vampywampy]

Wait, why hasn't anyone mentioned Seiken Densetsu 3? :<


It's better than Evermore. :<

[Guitar Woman]

Originally Posted by Chojin

Oh and FF4 was one of my favorite games growing up but I can't play any of the final fantasies anymore ;< they're just awful to me now ;<

1 and 6 are the only ones I can still tolerate because I haven't beat 1 yet and because 6 was just so awesome ;<

I'm such a dork when it comes to FF6, I printed out a bunch of sheet music and character art, I'm even considering getting a tatoo of that pic of Mog with a Martini ;<

[timrpgland]

I liked SD3 a lot. Better than SoM or SoE. I've only played it through once, however. Duran as the main character as a paladin, Lise as a Dragon Master and then Angela as a Magus . Ended up fighting the 2nd toughest boss (supposedly). That dragon thing. The music is awesome and the graphics were quite good. I just wish we got a real translatin but they did a good job with the translated rom from what I can tell. I liked the branching off classes the most. It had a decent difficulty but after a while the fighting got pretty boring.

[timrpgland]

Originally Posted by Guitar Woman

Even 6? Because that game was great

I'm such a dork when it comes to FF6, I printed out a bunch of sheet music and everything ;<

I'm confused. I remember you battling about IX over VI...? If you like VI I'm going to have a tough time hating you but I'll do my best

[camacazio]

The final fantasy series in general isn't very good. It's 'the standard' but the more I started to play outside of it the more I realized that there's better stuff.

[Guitar Woman]

Originally Posted by timrpgland

I'm confused. I remember you battling about IX over VI...? If you like VI I'm going to have a tough time hating you but I'll do my best

I used to like 9, but I replayed that one a while ago and realized how awful it is

edit: And yeah, the Final Fantasy series only has about 2 or 3 really good games in it.

[timrpgland]

Originally Posted by camacazio

The final fantasy series in general isn't very good. It's 'the standard' but the more I started to play outside of it the more I realized that there's better stuff.

I agree as a whole but a couple games in the series really stick out, IMO.

[camacazio]

Yeah. But play Phantasy Star 4--gave me a HUGE rpg boner.

[timrpgland]

I have and it was good. I have a tough time deciding between 3 & 4 though.

[camacazio]

I haven't played 3. I'm still trying to beat 2, about half way through, but that game takes such a horribly large amount of leveling up and item use.

[James]

Originally Posted by timrpgland

I liked SD3 a lot. Better than SoM or SoE. I've only played it through once, however. Duran as the main character as a paladin, Lise as a Dragon Master and then Angela as a Magus . Ended up fighting the 2nd toughest boss (supposedly). That dragon thing. The music is awesome and the graphics were quite good. I just wish we got a real translatin but they did a good job with the translated rom from what I can tell. I liked the branching off classes the most. It had a decent difficulty but after a while the fighting got pretty boring.

I'm a good way's into SD3, and I've about given up on it. They took all the good stuff about Secret of Mana, and threw it out. The game plays so stiff, with poor ally AI. Combat is stiff and glitchy. Story is boring because you apparently can't write a compelling tale involving 6 characters when you're only playing as three of them at a time (on top of which, the game is intentionally short, encouraging you to play through with different party members which is retarded). Leveling up is a chore.

I pretty much think it's one of the worst games I've ever played. But because I made it so far, I still wanna finish it. Except that means I have to play it.

[timrpgland]

The AI of your allies is pretty bad and switching characters becomes tiresome in that kind of battle style. There's something about the game that kept me playing and I thought it was a very good experience.

Something has to be said about you thinking it's one of the worst games but somehow you are far into it. Either you are a completionist no matter what or SD3 has somehow sucked you in even while you hate it.

What characters did you select?

[James]

Well, when I started playing it, it definitely felt "off" compared to Secret of Mana. But I stuck it out. And the game is short, so it's not hard to get far very quickly.

But now I'm at the point where you have to kill the dragons, and the difficulty ramped up a lot, and you really need to level up to stand a chance. Enemies gang up on you and deal a lot of damage, so all my characters keep dying. So now I'm just grinding, and grinding is tedious, especially with gameplay that you weren't too fond of from the start. I didn't mind the game at first, but the further I got into it, the more it got to me. And I am a completionist, so I feel that I've come this far, I should see if I can finish it one of these days.

[Emu]

I played it with Kevin as a main character, and then I picked Carlie and the black mage slut. Kevin is fun as hell to play, especially when he becomes a Bashkar or whatever it is

[SLjimbolian]

I had much more fun playing SD3 than SoM, which the whole game was just confusing for me.