Theological question

[Sethomas]

So... you still lack a point?

[kahljorn]

You can say something like, "Infinite Time" or "Boundless time" or "Limitless time". This means without a begining or end, this is the idea of word combinations, to change meanings.

Also, infinite includes more than just being outside of time, it is an infinite term, now stop your weak arguments. "INFINITE"S NOT SPECIFIC ENOUGH FOR ME", you really are a little slow aren't you. The bible says many times that god has "Infinite Wisdom", and infinite can be applied to more than one scenario. What do you think infinite wisdom means. Do you think that means it ends somewhere, that if you ask him a co mplicated enough problem he won't know what it means. Think about it. Saying God is infinite is like saying god is infinite in his infinite aspects, infinitley. Infinite's better, now go bitch somewhere else. INFINITE CUBED INFINITLEY. The infinite faces of God. Yada yada.

[Sethomas]

You're dumb.

Infinity is not the same thing as eternity. And infinity has a definite beginning, which is 0. That's why in math we refer to "negative infinity" separately. But you're obviously above conventional notions like mathematical or philosophical reasoning, so I don't know why I bother. Oh yeah, because your pathetic attempts amuse me.

[Perndog]

Seth, will you cite one source that differentiates "infinity" and "eternity" so we will know you're not making it up?

[Sethomas]

The working definition that I use for "eternity" comes from De Consolatione Philosophia, De Civitate Dei, and Summa Theologica. For an understanding of infinity, I rest on my modest education in mathematics.

[Perndog]

I was asking for a philosophical source which differentiates the two terms. Philosophy and mathematics don't speak the same language; as far as any philosophy I've read is concerned, infinity and eternity are perfect synonyms and are used interchangeably (except eternity is preferred when referring to time).

[Sethomas]

Well, strictly speaking infinity is a mathematical term, whereas eternity is philosophical. The philosophical equivalent to infinity, as something that has beginning but no end, is immortal. In conventional theology, the soul is immortal but God is eternal, for example.

[Perndog]

Alright, works for me.

[kahljorn]

You are speaking the language of modifiers, I am speaking the language of the crisp and pure, two different things. I suppose you shouldn't confuse your philosophy with mathematics, and should learn to think somehow greater than whatever crap you have read and decided to reliterate.

Also, eternal is a theological term, philosophy and theology are different.

[The One and Only...]

Eternity relates only to time, while infinity can relate to anything, such as space.

[Helm]

Yes, thank you and fuck off. Back to your penile introspection or something.

[kellychaos]

Originally Posted by Sethomas

And infinity has a definite beginning, which is 0. That's why in math we refer to "negative infinity" separately.

Did you notice that you, again, attached a qualifier (negative) to your remark that automatically infers direction. Of course, eternal is used in relation to time. It's a more specific case of inifinity in it's use. You can say "an infinite amount of time" but I've never heard "an eternal amount of space". So what? Does that make the usage wrong if the definitions match?