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Old Mar 16th, 2004, 01:50 PM        Early design for my comic book character! :o
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Old Mar 16th, 2004, 02:06 PM       
Wow, that's a lovely red X you've got there.

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SWEET ZOMBIE JESUS SHRINK THAT BITCH DOWN!!!

It looks like it could be...something. I don't know what to think. It's weird.
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Old Mar 16th, 2004, 02:14 PM       
IM about to re-do the pic so its smaller
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Old Mar 16th, 2004, 02:35 PM       
It's smaller now.
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Old Mar 16th, 2004, 02:44 PM       
Indeed.



It's good overall, but the wings are kind of oddly connected to him, and don't look like they'd rip such big holes in a jacket like that, if at all.
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Old Mar 16th, 2004, 05:07 PM       
I'm working on the body-to-wing connection, and he ripped the holes himself. But thank you for the criticism. Remember, this is just an early drawing, though.
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Old Mar 16th, 2004, 05:37 PM       
are you guys having a discussion about a red x? cause i dont see any wings on the red x.
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Old Mar 16th, 2004, 05:45 PM       
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Old Mar 16th, 2004, 05:50 PM       
they look like spider legs witht hings hanging from them. Spiderman!
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Old Mar 16th, 2004, 05:54 PM       
They're supposed to be the charred remains of his angelic wings.
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Old Mar 16th, 2004, 10:49 PM       
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Old Mar 16th, 2004, 11:40 PM       
the second one looks like he just got up and is about to go for his morning jog

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Old Mar 24th, 2004, 02:01 AM       
So, Goat, would you recommend the I-Mockery forums for
having artwork critiqued?
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Old Mar 24th, 2004, 12:36 PM       
lemme guess...you're one of the amazing artists from penny arcade.
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Old Mar 24th, 2004, 09:38 PM       
Actually, no, im not from Penny Arcade. And those aren't my best works, just some shit i threw together. I am not saying they are great, i just want to know what you people think of the basic design of the character. so far, only Spectre got it so far.
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Old Mar 24th, 2004, 11:00 PM       
hey genius, i was talkin to the guy who posted above me. that's usually how these message board things work.
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Old Mar 24th, 2004, 11:32 PM       
Sorry 'bout that, Glowbelly. Didn't catch that. I just figured since everyone else was raggin on my stuff that you were too.


In all seriousness, though, Glow, what do you think I should do to fix my drawings to make them a bit more realistic? I respect your artistic opinions more than other people on this board.
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Old Mar 25th, 2004, 12:20 AM       
A: Sarcasm. Figured you were used to swimming in it here
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B: I never touch Penny Arcade. I've seen better art in my mom's
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Old Mar 25th, 2004, 07:42 AM       
alrighty goat...

the first suggestion i have is to quit drawing on notebook paper. i understand that these are considered preliminary sketches, but you can do the same kind of sketches in a sketchbook. that way when you present them people like me won't get distracted by blue horizontal lines.

if this is a character for a comic book, you really need to get used to drawing the same looking figure over and over again. the top representation looks frail compared to the bottom.

also, something doesn't set well with me with his wings. i'm not a wing expert by any means, but you might want to look towards nature to figure out how they should be drawn. by looking at it is now, i can't tell if his wings were recently burned or if they have been cleaned up and this is what he was left with. i'm leaning towards the latter, because the bottom skeletal part looks too clean. plus, remember that fire isn't rational. it doesn't tend to burn two objects the same. it may be more interesting to show some kind of variation between the two.

i think the figure drawing itself is fairly good. i'm not a drawing person, so it's hard for me to tell you exactly what is wrong with the figures. i definitely think that the bottom drawing is stronger than the top. i'd like to see some more shading to soften up the hard lines.

that's all i got for you now.
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Old Mar 25th, 2004, 08:38 PM       
I was wondering why he was asking a photographer for drawing tips.

Really all you can do is to practice as much as possible.
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Old Mar 25th, 2004, 11:41 PM       
It wasn't that I was asking a photographer about drawing, I was simply asking an artist her artistic opinion. And besides, if I am going for a realistic figure, who better to ask than someone who deals with real figures all the time?
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Old Mar 26th, 2004, 02:26 AM       
Someone who draws them.
If you are going for realism the best thing you can do is to practice drawing a model. That is what realism is mostly, life-accurate drawings. You can't expect to manifest real-to-life drawings in your head and then produce them on paper from day one. That would be like someone who tried to cook their very first cake without a recipe.

Observe ripped holes in clothing in order to emulate it for the holes in the jacket. Think "how would a hole in cloth look if a wing had just been thrust through it?" And use similar thinking for other aspects as well (wings, hair, clothing, ect). Find a picture of a wing then draw it, find a picture of the back of a man's head and draw it. If I go into specifit things then it will be my visualisations as an artist, and not yours. So develop what you notice in reality, then practice it.
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Old Mar 26th, 2004, 02:11 PM       
Thank you for the tips, Supafly. I will certainly try those things.
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Old Apr 6th, 2004, 08:33 PM       
click here to see it.

It is a revised version of my first drawing. I re-did the wing attatchments and the bone structure. No shading, though. Not yet, anyway.[/list]
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