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Old Jun 9th, 2005, 01:46 PM        The Incredibles rip offs
I watched The Incredibles the first time last night and absolutely loved it buuuuut...

Mr. Incredible=The Thing
Elasticgirl=Mr. Fantastic
Frozone=Iceman/Silver Surfer
Violet=The Invisible Woman
Dash=Flash
Syndrome=Dick Cheney
Jack Jack=the Human Torch/Dr. Doom
The Mole (appeared in end of movie)=the Mole Man
Big Ball Robot Machine Thingy created by Syndrome=Big Four Legged Machine Thingy in Empire Strikes Back
Dash chase scene=Leia chase scene in the woods moments before meeting an ewok in Return of Jedi/Anakin racing scene in episode one (similiar backgrounds)

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Old Jun 9th, 2005, 02:03 PM       
It's a postmodern take on a genre and it uses established traits in this genre to work as metaphors for family life.

And saying the ball machine thing is a rip-off of the AT-ATs is like saying a cat is a rip-off of a dog.

How the hell is Mr. Incredible supposed to be Thing anyway?
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Old Jun 9th, 2005, 02:19 PM       
He's strong and nigh-invulnerable.

But that's just it. His powers are similar to those of the Thing, his place in the family is entirely different.
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Old Jun 9th, 2005, 02:59 PM       
youre right, pjlane. its clear their superpowers is similiar to their personalities. ii may have exaggerated when i accused the makers of the movie for ripping off. mr. incredible has a body of a rock, you can throw him around and he'd walk away without a scratch. the thing was the closest thing i could compare mr. incredible to.

the cat and the dog are two different pets but theyre both pets, orange and apple are two different fruits but they're both fruits just as the ball thing and the at-at are different big machine thingy with destructuve powers but they both are big machine thingy with destructive powers. its the concept that are similiar.
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Old Jun 9th, 2005, 03:18 PM       
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youre right, pjlane. its clear their superpowers is similiar to their personalities. ii may have exaggerated when i accused the makers of the movie for ripping off. mr. incredible has a body of a rock, you can throw him around and he'd walk away without a scratch. the thing was the closest thing i could compare mr. incredible to.
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Old Jun 9th, 2005, 06:17 PM       
This is like saying all the characters in Watchmen are ripped off from Batman. If this was a serious superhero action movie I might agree with you, but it puts a fun spin on the clich├ęs set by superhero comics, and it can't really do that if it has to waste time establishing a series of original heroes.
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Old Jun 9th, 2005, 07:37 PM       
the incredibles retains its awesomeness in the face of these so called rip offs

especially with the help of the babysitter
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Old Jun 9th, 2005, 08:09 PM       
They might be rip-offs, but Brad Bird didn't intend for at least the family to be that way. I remember in an interview he did before the movie came out, each person's powers corresponded to the way that their role in Bird's eye.
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Old Jun 9th, 2005, 10:57 PM       
it's called paying homage, not ripping off.

and where did you get dr. doom from jack jack? I got the incredible hulk, the torch, and colossus. though I think he also had spikes or something, didn't he?
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Old Jun 10th, 2005, 12:36 AM       
Jack-Jack was more of a shape-shifter than anything else. Therefore, perhaps you'd best liken him to the Super-Skrull or something.
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and where did you get dr. doom from jack jack?
in the end when he transformed into multiple personalities before syndrome's eyes, metallic armour was one of them.
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Old Jun 10th, 2005, 01:29 PM       
right. colossus.
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and where did you get dr. doom from jack jack?
in the end when he transformed into multiple personalities before syndrome's eyes, metallic armour was one of them.
How is biological metallic armor Doctor Doom? He has a suit of armor type of thing, not biological metallic armor.
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Old Jun 10th, 2005, 07:15 PM       
Maybe he's thinking of Ultimate Dr. Doom.
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Old Jun 12th, 2005, 11:23 PM       
You mean crappy Doctor Doom?
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Old Jun 14th, 2005, 08:04 PM       
Sorry I'm not familiar with colossus. I admit I'm not as serious of a comic reader as most of you are so go easy on me.

Emu, that's true. Although Mr. Incredible doesn't fly or wear capes, he does have that goody two shoe boy scout personality whose weakness is caring about people, at least in the eyes of villians.

Valuing life in not a weakness
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Old Jun 14th, 2005, 09:42 PM       


colossus

he transforms his body into organic steel.
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