Originally Posted by KevinTheOmnivore
But isn't this one of those heady topics though, where everyone agrees that change is necessary and then nobody agrees on how? You yourself mentioned how polarized the nation is (as a side note, there are some who argue that to be nonsense, but whatever).
What specifically do you believe to be wrong? You know the saying, one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter, well one man's so-called corruption is another man's farm subsidy. Is it the media? is it apathy? is it one political party more so than the other?
It's like holding a discussion (no offense to any present company) with an Anarchist. They tend to be very well versed in what they perceive to be wrong with society, but then offer the weakest and lamest alternatives.
If you want change, what's the first step?
Honestly, I kind of wanted to be a little open ended. I'm curious to hear what other people have to say about this issue. Right now, I'm just interested in surveying how people think and feel about an issue like this.
I'll be honest and say that I don't know what the first step is. What I do know is is that this is the sort of change that could take years, even decades to effectively implement. I admit that I'm only I'm only at a hypothesis right now, and I need to investigate a little more.
As for what I believe is wrong, It's a couple of things. I began looking into this idea after watching Jon Stewart's appearance on Crossfire
last fall. People have been so far polarized in both directions that sometimes we'll tune the other side out when someone on that side makes a good point. I realize that pundits aren't the best representatives of political thought, but people do
read them and sometimes take them too seriously.
Finally, I meant to point this out in my first post. There's seriously talk of running Hillary Clinton running in '08. If the only candidate the Democrats can effectively run against a Republican is Hillary Clinton, forget about the Democrats being screwed. Our whole democracy is screwed! It's not so much the kind of polititian Hillary is. It's a sad time in Politics when the best thing you can do with following another Bush is another Clinton. It seems like a bought and sold monarchy.