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Old Nov 17th, 2004, 04:41 PM        Seth or any other Latin geek
Please help me translate "Ignorance is Strength" to Latin.

Ignoratio est Vires

Ignorantia est Fortitudo

Something else entirely?

I don't know Latin, and the internet is fallible where Latin geeks are not. Proper conjugation for bonus points AND I'll put in a good word for you with the Overlords when they take power.
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Old Nov 17th, 2004, 05:01 PM       
I don't have my Latin dictionary here at college, so the closest thing I can think of is "Stultia fortitudo est". I've generally seen "stultia" translated as "folly", so I don't know if there's a separate word for ignorance or not.
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Old Nov 17th, 2004, 05:12 PM       
www.etymonline.com has this entry for ignorance:

c.1374, from O.Fr. ignorant, from L. ignorantia, from ignorantem, prp. of ignorare (see ignore). Colloquial sense of "ill-mannered" first attested 1886. Ignorance is attested c.1225, from O.Fr. ignorance, from L. ignorantia.


I think the "L." means Latin, but I wouldn't know the first thing about conjugation or structure, so how does "Ignorantem fortitudo est" sound?
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Old Nov 17th, 2004, 05:16 PM       
or better yet, Notre Dame has an online English to Latin dictionary

Quote:
ignorance
ignorantia -ae f. [ignorance].

ignoratio -onis f. [ignorance].

imperitia -ae f. [inexperience , ignorance].

imprudentia -ae f. [lack of foresight or knowledge; ignorance; lack of wisdom , imprudence].

inscientia -ae f. [ignorance , inexperience].

inscitia -ae f. [inexperience , want of skill, ignorance].
I think imprudentia is probably the word we seek.
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Old Nov 17th, 2004, 05:51 PM       
It has been a long time (close to a decade) sionce I was in a Latin class, so I could be wrong. But, if I remember correctly:

vires refers to stength in a health sense (as in virility)

fortes refers to brute force (fortification) or strength of charecter(fortitude).
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Old Nov 17th, 2004, 06:31 PM       
Imprudence makes me virile!
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Old Nov 17th, 2004, 06:34 PM       
A 5 mph wind in the right direction makes you virile.
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Old Nov 17th, 2004, 08:16 PM       
Looking at myself in the mirror does, too.
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Old Nov 17th, 2004, 09:16 PM       
"Ignorantem fortitudo est" is improper grammar, since "est" (esse in infinitive) is a linking verb and the -em denotes the accusative case. I think the right form would be "Imprudentia fortitudo est". Blanco is right about vires referring to strength, but its root is "vir" (man) which makes it more personal than that for which I think you mean.
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Old Nov 18th, 2004, 03:23 AM       
ig·no·rant Audio pronunciation of "ignorant" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (gnr-nt)
adj.

1. Lacking education or knowledge.
2. Showing or arising from a lack of education or knowledge: an ignorant mistake.
3. Unaware or uninformed.


[Middle English ignoraunt, from Old French ignorant, from Latin ignrns, ignrant- present participle of ignrre, to be ignorant, not to know. See gn- in Indo-European Roots.]

has some wierd sybols in there ;/

Wonder if that's "Accurate latin"
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Old Nov 18th, 2004, 08:46 AM       
I'm going to call people "ignoraumuses" just so I can look sophisticated.
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