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Old Mar 20th, 2003, 10:18 PM       
Depends on warheads, deployment etc.
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Old Mar 20th, 2003, 10:22 PM       
Funny, but a part of me doesn't think it does.
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Old Mar 21st, 2003, 10:10 AM       
There are no UN Resolutions stating a cease fire will continue should we not build a house size bomb.
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Old Mar 23rd, 2003, 02:44 AM       
Better put that smoking gun on ice, sport.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2003Mar22.html

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No Sign Yet of Scuds or WMD


Reuters

Saturday, March 22, 2003; 8:50 PM


U.S. forces in Iraq have yet to find any evidence of the suspected chemical or biological weapons that prompted the invasion, a U.S. general said.

Gen. Stanley McChrystal, vice director for operations on the U.S. military's Joint Staff, also told a briefing that none of the missiles fired by Iraq so far in the war had been a Scud.

Scud missiles, along with chemical, biological or nuclear weapons, are among the arms that Iraq was barred from possessing by U.N. resolutions after the 1991 Gulf War.


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Old Mar 23rd, 2003, 06:05 AM       
I was under the impression that Iraq has launched a number of SCUD missiles towards Kuwait in the last five days. They've proven ineffective, but still.
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Old Mar 23rd, 2003, 06:15 AM       
I think it wasn't established whether they were SCUDs or a different kind of missile (possibly a type still permitted by the UN resolution). They must still not be sure, or it would've been slapped all over the news.
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Old Mar 23rd, 2003, 07:21 AM       
The UN is worthless, from day one is was made to be anti American and anti-democracy. Why do you think the former Soviet Union had *3* votes compared to the United States' *1*! Why should we have to go through the UN to protect ourselves? When our men and women give service oaths, they give them to protect and serve the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, not the UNITED NATIONS.

The UN has proven itself stupid when it cant even enforce it's own laws.

Peace sells, but the US is always buying.
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Old Mar 23rd, 2003, 10:26 AM       
Just to put this thread in its place, those missiles in question were determined to be FROG missiles, which Iraq is allowed to have.
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Old Mar 23rd, 2003, 10:32 AM       
....of course we need a source....
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Old Mar 23rd, 2003, 10:41 AM       
Will this do?

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.j...toryID=2429803
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Old Mar 23rd, 2003, 10:47 AM       
Yes, the FROG was mistaken for a SCUD. Im not suprised, since both the missle and the French lack direction, but I digress.


We will find the chemical and bio weapons when we get some scientists to talk and when we go into Baghdad. Unfortuantly, the evidence the left needs will be the chemicals rained down on our service men and women when we get there. I pray that is NOT the way we discover his cache.
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Old Mar 23rd, 2003, 02:57 PM       
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The UN is worthless, from day one is was made to be anti American and anti-democracy. Why do you think the former Soviet Union had *3* votes compared to the United States' *1*! Why should we have to go through the UN to protect ourselves? When our men and women give service oaths, they give them to protect and serve the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, not the UNITED NATIONS.
This is the most stupid thing I have seen on this board so far. And that's saying quite a bit. I won't even begin to point out the obvious bullshit in this... 'thing' you posted, because I think that if I read it a second time, my brain will explode. I will, however, from now on completely disregard every and all posts/threads you make.

Thanks for making this easy.
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Old Mar 23rd, 2003, 09:05 PM       
I hope you will forgive my ignorance of military jargon, but what are SCUD and FROG missiles? What do the acronyms stand for? What makes them different from other missiles?
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Old Mar 23rd, 2003, 09:35 PM       
Helm, would you like the evidence and offical charter paragraphs from the U.N. that proves this was true? Or do you want to retract your statement about it being stupid.

You can color the truth all you want, the truth will always still be the truth.
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Old Mar 23rd, 2003, 11:00 PM       
'Scud' is Nato terminology, Jen. It's an Iraqi-modified extended-range versions of the Soviet designed R-17 missile (known as the SS-IC Scud B in NATO terminology) called the AI Hussein and the AI Abbas. Some 650 R-17 missiles and 36 MAZ launch vehicles were sold to Iraq by the Soviet Union. By cannibalising R-17 Scud missiles and the indigenous production of some components, the Iraqis were able to build two extended range versions of the 300 km range R-17 - the AI Hussein or AI Hosseih - with a range of 600 to 650 km and the AI Abbas, or AI Hijarah, with a range of 750 km to 900 km. For simplicity's sake, all Iraqi-modified Scud missiles are hereafter refered to by the generic term "Scud."

Likewise, the FROG is an unguided artillary rocket (I'm not sure, but I think they are refering to the ancient Frog-7, with a range of 70 - 80 km) Iraqi-enhanced based upon a Russian design.

Why you want to know this, I have no idea, but for more information check out the Federation of American Scientists site
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Old Mar 24th, 2003, 12:11 AM       
Thanks for the info.

(BTW, please don't call me "Jen".)
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Old Mar 24th, 2003, 12:13 AM       
Duelly noted Jen.
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