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Old Mar 18th, 2010, 02:55 PM       
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You've already stated how experts should be completely disregarded.
Oh, what a tangled web we weave TheLeader.

I never said that ALL experts should be completely disregarded. Only the those who have been found to be incorrect every step of the way. Even going so far as to falsify their data to suit their donors.

AKA - Climatologists

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Old Mar 18th, 2010, 03:06 PM       
It's pretty serious when you can't even be a scientist interested in climatology without being in the back pocket of The Government.
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Old Mar 18th, 2010, 03:13 PM       
Oh, my mistake Coolinator. I guess I just can't use information gathered by the experts in the field that we're discussing.
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Old Mar 18th, 2010, 03:26 PM       
If those experts received donations or any sort of funding to continue their research, then no. That sort of thing automatically negates science.

You know this. You've been told at least eleven times.
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Old Mar 18th, 2010, 03:36 PM       
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It's pretty serious when you can't even be a scientist interested in climatology without being in the back pocket of The Government.
I don't believe the government would be in control of this. Most politicians are told what to do by Wall Street and Co.

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Oh, my mistake Coolinator. I guess I just can't use information gathered by the experts in the field that we're discussing.
We're still waiting to receive your ideas on the subject matter discussed in this thread.

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Old Mar 18th, 2010, 03:46 PM       
And I'm still waiting for you to get your head out of your ass and read the posts in the thread.
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Old Mar 18th, 2010, 03:59 PM       
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I don't believe the government would be in control of this. Most politicians are told what to do by Wall Street and Co.
So who is it? You said Ruling Class, and the government is part of that.
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Old Mar 18th, 2010, 04:26 PM       
I'm assuming he thinks it's the Free Masons or the Jews.
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Old Mar 18th, 2010, 04:34 PM       
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And I'm still waiting for you to get your head out of your ass and read the posts in the thread.
You'll be waiting awhile, I'm thinkin'.
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Old Mar 18th, 2010, 04:37 PM       
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I'm assuming he thinks it's the Free Masons or the Jews.
What if it is the Jewish Free Masons?


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Old Mar 18th, 2010, 04:40 PM       
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If those experts received donations or any sort of funding to continue their research, then no. That sort of thing automatically negates science.

You know this. You've been told at least eleven times.
Right. When I was in graduate school, I was funded by a BIG GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATION so all my research is null and void, since all I did was generate data to support the conclusions already laid out for me by the RULING CLASS.

Wall Street was real interested in laser spectroscopy of supersonically cooled rare gas and alkane complexes of polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons.

Follow the money.
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Old Mar 18th, 2010, 04:41 PM       
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Wall Street was real interested in laser spectroscopy of supersonically cooled rare gas and alkane complexes of polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons.

Follow the money.
Follow the money? I can't even follow that thing you just said
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Old Mar 18th, 2010, 04:45 PM       
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So who is it? You said Ruling Class, and the government is part of that.
The government is nothing more then a tool of financial elites. When Monsanto and Wal-mart say jump, politicians ask how high?

They fund mass movements to short circuit normal political processes. I think the newest story I found about this "invisible oligarchical hand" would be how George Soros is attacking Greece's economy through speculation.

I would link to the article but it would be probably cause numerous individuals to yell and scream insults they've learned on MSNBC and Fox news.
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Old Mar 18th, 2010, 05:32 PM       
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Follow the money? I can't even follow that thing you just said
Yeah, I had to look it up It's been so long that I forgot what I did to earn that "degree" thing that makes me an instrument of the financial elite.

Don't believe me, I'm a scientist.
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Old Mar 18th, 2010, 05:37 PM       
Oi, I can only contribute with an old literature essay on Keats and an educational research thesis, both are fairly meaningless, but 100% free from ruling class interference
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Old Mar 18th, 2010, 05:47 PM       
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Oi, I can only contribute with an old literature essay on Keats and an educational research thesis, both are fairly meaningless, but 100% free from ruling class interference
Don't you realize this qualifies you as a bona-fide expert? Blog about your opinions on climate research!
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Dr David Evans was a consultant to the Australian Greenhouse Office from 1999 to 2005.

I DEVOTED six years to carbon accounting, building models for the Australian Greenhouse Office. I am the rocket scientist who wrote the carbon accounting model (FullCAM) that measures Australia's compliance with the Kyoto Protocol, in the land use change and forestry sector.

FullCAM models carbon flows in plants, mulch, debris, soils and agricultural products, using inputs such as climate data, plant physiology and satellite data. I've been following the global warming debate closely for years.

When I started that job in 1999 the evidence that carbon emissions caused global warming seemed pretty good: CO2 is a greenhouse gas, the old ice core data, no other suspects.

The evidence was not conclusive, but why wait until we were certain when it appeared we needed to act quickly? Soon government and the scientific community were working together and lots of science research jobs were created. We scientists had political support, the ear of government, big budgets, and we felt fairly important and useful (well, I did anyway). It was great. We were working to save the planet.

But since 1999 new evidence has seriously weakened the case that carbon emissions are the main cause of global warming, and by 2007 the evidence was pretty conclusive that carbon played only a minor role and was not the main cause of the recent global warming. As Lord Keynes famously said, "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?"

There has not been a public debate about the causes of global warming and most of the public and our decision makers are not aware of

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1111116945238
I think is how most people felt when they found out about the hoax.....Since I have a degree in Environmental Studies it hit me pretty hard.



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Surface Mass Balance of the Greenland Ice Sheet

Ice sheet grew by over 60%

http://co2science.org/articles/V12/N33/C1.php

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Old Mar 18th, 2010, 06:19 PM       
Coolio, Australians can't be trusted for anything, so your text is invalid.


Also, I am a bona fide commie pinko nutcase, so there is no need to school me on who is spreading their tendrils into our parliaments and schools.

Anyway, as I was saying, who are the financial bigwigs that are pulling the strings in this case?
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Old Mar 18th, 2010, 06:23 PM       
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Since I have a degree in Environmental Studies it hit me pretty hard.
Do you work in that field?
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Old Mar 18th, 2010, 06:25 PM       
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I would link to the article but it would be probably cause numerous individuals to yell and scream insults they've learned on MSNBC and Fox news.
Also fuck you for assuming that because someone is logical they watch that bullshit.
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Old Mar 18th, 2010, 06:54 PM       
Christ, he is sounding more and more like a typical conspiracy theorist.
He already sabotaged his own argument by saying he doesn't believe climatologists, the only people in the world who are authorized to speak on these matters, basically invalidating his position altogether. To think there is a global conspiracy among thousands of climatologists, all getting paid off by... I don't know what broke ass environmentalist group would have that kind of money, but SOMEBODY, AND all of them have kept their mouths shut about it?

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Old Mar 18th, 2010, 07:12 PM       
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Anyway, as I was saying, who are the financial bigwigs that are pulling the strings in this case?
Do you guys even read what I post? Or do you just wait until I respond and then ask the same exact question again?

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The government is nothing more then a tool of financial elites. When Monsanto and Wal-mart say jump, politicians ask how high? They fund mass movements to short circuit normal political processes. I think the newest story I found about this "invisible oligarchical hand" would be how George Soros is attacking Greece's economy through speculation. I would link to the article but it would be probably cause numerous individuals to yell and scream insults they've learned on MSNBC and Fox news.
Here is what I wrote......again.... Let me further simplify it by saying everyone who has a vest interested in the synthetic hoax movement.

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Do you work in that field?
Not climate work but I do have a degree in Environmental studies and work as a regulator.

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Christ, he is sounding more and more like a typical conspiracy theorist.
He already sabotaged his own argument by saying he doesn't believe climatologists, the only people in the world who are authorized to speak on these matters.
I guess we should all try to become Climatologists then and be official Conspiracy theorists.

Please read the articles I posted above where it discusses SUPPRESSED SCIENCE.
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Old Mar 18th, 2010, 07:16 PM       
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Do you guys even read what I post? Or do you just wait until I respond and then ask the same exact question again.
Your posts are often confusing to others.
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Old Mar 18th, 2010, 07:18 PM       
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Your posts are often confusing to others.
lol, Speak for yourself.


and why have you asked me the same question for 5 pages now?
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Old Mar 18th, 2010, 07:20 PM       
I was referring to others as people other than you. You also have problems with comprehension.
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