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Old May 5th, 2010, 10:31 AM       
Yes, but The Coolinator believes that the government puts fluoride in the water to harm you.
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Old May 5th, 2010, 10:59 AM       
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Yes, but The Coolinator believes that the government puts fluoride in the water to harm you.
1. Can you post a quote of me saying that?

2. You think Fluoride is good for you?
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Old May 5th, 2010, 11:04 AM       
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2. You think Fluoride is good for you?
Uh, it is.

Speaking as a materials scientist/engineer and therefore the resident EXPERT, I can lay some hard science on you about what fluorine does to hydroxyapatite on the atomic and microstructural level, so mind your p's and q's
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Old May 5th, 2010, 11:41 AM       
Sodium Fluoride.

Why does it say it's a poison on the back of every tooth paste tube? And why has it been assigned a hazard class of 6.1 (Poison) according to the US Department of transportation hazardous material regulations?
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Old May 5th, 2010, 11:45 AM       
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People who eat more calories than they use will gain weight. I understand that but the issue here is chemicals, preservatives, Genetically modified organism, and different form of food (HFCS) that have never been used before by the bodies. Most of these synthetic ingredients have trouble being digested and often get stored in fat deposits.
lol, no.

if your body can't digest something, it gets passed into your bowel (for example, insoluble fiber). why on earth would our physiology be designed to pass things that we can't digest into fat deposits? if we can't digest it, why could we burn it for fuel? and if we could burn things we can't digest into fuel, why do we even bother to eat food? we could just chow down on dirt and gravel all day.

trans fats are bad because they increase harmful cholesterol levels (there are good types of cholesterol). all the same, your body produces all the cholesterol it needs and will actually limit the amount it outputs when you get more of it from your food. basically, you can eat all the bad or good cholesterol you want within reasonable limits. trans fats make you fat because they're dense and have a lot of calories. also, fat has a higher calorie count per gram than other nutrients.

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High Fructose Corn syrup and Aspartme have been linked to pancreatic disorders similar to diabetes and GMOs have been linked to wide spread organ failure.
Sugar has also been 'linked' to diabetes because diabetes involves insulin production and blood sugar levels. Therefore, fructose (fruit sugar), sucrose (table sugar), and any other sweetener will also be 'linked' to diseases caused by...a change in blood sugar. GASP

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Old May 5th, 2010, 12:00 PM       
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Sodium Fluoride.

Why does it say it's a poison on the back of every tooth paste tube? And why has it been assigned a hazard class of 6.1 (Poison) according to the US Department of transportation hazardous material regulations?
Because the amount put into the water is nowhere near a harmful dose by any stretch of the imagination. I could list a hundred things that you come into contact with every single day that contain extremely toxic substances (electronics, for example) and it's pretty much impossible to die from or be harmed by them
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Old May 5th, 2010, 12:01 PM       
carbon dioxide is also a poison

better stop breathing
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Old May 5th, 2010, 12:11 PM       
Don't use any cleaners when you wash you dishes, all that stuff leaves poison on your plates and forks.
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Old May 5th, 2010, 12:18 PM       
They say that the tiniest trickle of water will eventually forge the widest of rivers from what was once a mighty mountain.

Better stop drinking that water.
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Old May 5th, 2010, 12:24 PM       
I bet Coolies breath smells awful.
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I know, it's horrible. Basically they make all milk imported into the state extremely cheap, and all milk production here is either shut down, or crippled to a point where it can't function. This means that all mothers feed their children with government supplied milk. Milk that has less vitamins, minerals and calcium, while having more chemicals such as ammonium and fluoride.
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I'm glad to see someone else knows about the dangers of fluoride. Here in the states peoples have been indoctrinated to believe it's actually good for them.
http://www.i-mockery.com/forum/showt...9704439&page=4


See? When someone asks a question (several times, even) you answer them directly rather than post a link to a blog about some other shit.
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Old May 5th, 2010, 12:34 PM       
I didn't say the government puts it in. Even though they do put it in some municipal water supplies. You made it sound like it was a giant conspiracy when its all out in the open.

The Fluoride deception is a good, free Documentary on google video that may shed some light on the subject.
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Old May 5th, 2010, 12:37 PM       
My posts are a good free documentary to shed light on the subject too
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Old May 5th, 2010, 12:40 PM       
Coolie, what are you eating today?

I plan on a day full of Tecate and tacos from a truck.
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Old May 5th, 2010, 12:41 PM       
Coolie, could you address the counter points in Milhouse's post?
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Old May 5th, 2010, 12:42 PM       
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Old May 5th, 2010, 12:47 PM       
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I didn't say the government puts it in. Even though they do put it in some municipal water supplies. You made it sound like it was a giant conspiracy when its all out in the open.

The Fluoride deception is a good, free Documentary on google video that may shed some light on the subject.
Fair enough, I was exaggerating for humour so I wont stick to the fact that you said it was the government.

See? People backing down from meaningless facts rather than defending them furiously before ignoring them once proven wrong. It happens.


So who does put the fluoride in the water? Peter Olzslag?
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Peter Olzslag drives an ice cream truck covered in human skulls.
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Old May 5th, 2010, 01:20 PM       
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if your body can't digest something, it gets passed into your bowel (for example, insoluble fiber). why on earth would our physiology be designed to pass things that we can't digest into fat deposits? if we can't digest it, why could we burn it for fuel? and if we could burn things we can't digest into fuel, why do we even bother to eat food? we could just chow down on dirt and gravel all day.
They don't always pass through the bowels, most of the time they get absorbed and stored in fat deposits. They also cause damage to the intestines and other organs which makes digestion inefficient.


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you can eat all the bad or good cholesterol you want within reasonable limits. trans fats make you fat because they're dense and have a lot of calories. also, fat has a higher calorie count per gram than other nutrients.
I think the first part of your statement is somewhat contradictory. If there are "limits" then you can't eat all you want...right?

And we aren't making the distinction of which foods the individual is eating. Sythetic / GMO or organic. This in itself really has a large impact on how fat a person is and how healthy they are. Food additive free diets are proven to produce quick results in the health of a regular individual no matter the age.

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MSG-Induced Obesity
MSG is injected into laboratory rats to induce obesity. It also has been shown to increase appetite in male rats and to induce obesity in female rats and chickens. Scientists in Spain have recently concluded that MSG when given to mice increase appetite by as much as 40%.

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Sugar has also been 'linked' to diabetes because diabetes involves insulin production and blood sugar levels. Therefore, fructose (fruit sugar), sucrose (table sugar), and any other sweetener will also be 'linked' to diseases caused by...a change in blood sugar. GASP
High fructose corn syrup is not sugar. Its a synthetic based sweetner which are grown from genetically modified corn. The phrase "High Fructose" in HFCS indicates that it has a higher fructose level. This higher level of fructose puts a lot of pressure on the body. There is a difference between sugar and sweetners and they have very different effects on the people who use them.

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"Historically, we never consumed much sugar," said Barry Popkin of the University of North Carolina, and a health policy adviser for the U.S. government. "We're not built to process it."
And this quote is from the original article at the beginning of the thread. The first thing I say to myself after reading this is if we're not built to process this.......then how can we possibly be built to process synthetics, preservatives, additives, and other genetically modified ingredients?
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The phrase "High Fructose" in HFCS indicates that it has a higher fructose level.
Well here's one sentence we can all agree upon at least
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Well here's one sentence we can all agree upon at least
Then we can also agree that this synthetic form of sweetner has a different chemical make up than normal sugar. Which would then lead us to believe that synthetic forms of food and food additives are the most likely culprit to obesity.
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Then we can also agree that this synthetic form of sweetner has a different chemical make up than normal sugar. Which would then lead us to believe that synthetic forms of food and food additives are the most likely culprit to obesity.
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I don't think I'm smart and I just don't react to the mocking. Why react when you can just continue the conversation?
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