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Old Dec 5th, 2003, 04:23 PM       
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Old Dec 5th, 2003, 11:47 PM       
Greater productivity does *not* equal greater pay, except in sales and other fields where workers get commissions. If it did, the nation would not be so full of slackers, cheaters, corner-cutters, and everyone else who does the bare minimum required to get their check.

In other words, the world would end.
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Old Dec 6th, 2003, 12:34 AM       
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What do you think government is then?
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Old Dec 6th, 2003, 09:23 AM       
Didn't I already explain what the government is in this thread? Or, at least, in my opinion.

Greater productivity does yield greater pay, it's just that it is more likely to do so when productivity generally increases over specifically. That said, if a manager notices a worker who is particularly productive over a period of time, they might get a bonus.

The reason people cut corners, etc. is because we are lazy bastards. Haven't you noticed that, rather than working more, people work less when they are payed more?
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Old Dec 6th, 2003, 09:42 AM       
People cut corners for 101 different reasons, laziness included.

The biggest reason is alienation from ones company, boss or produce.



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That said, if a manager notices a worker who is particularly productive over a period of time, they might get a bonus.
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Old Dec 6th, 2003, 12:13 PM       
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Old Dec 6th, 2003, 02:11 PM       
Did you explain what government is? I think I must have missed that.
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Old Dec 6th, 2003, 03:41 PM       
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Government is simply the combined effort of several interest groups to turn the interaction of humans in their favor. Most support unified military and police; therefore, few complain about the government stealing their money through taxation and having it allocated to such functions. However, differences in opinions lead to political lobbying and parties, and, after much deliberation, a consensus is reached to create a basic governmental framework that allows for policy to be changed without bloodshed. That is how a republic forms.
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Old Dec 6th, 2003, 04:04 PM       
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Greater productivity does yield greater pay, it's just that it is more likely to do so when productivity generally increases over specifically.
Another indication that you've never worked in the labor field and probably why you always sound like a textbook when the topic is discussed. Theory's great but how about a day in the shoes, brother?

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The reason people cut corners, etc. is because we are lazy bastards. Haven't you noticed that, rather than working more, people work less when they are payed more?
I consider myself a moderate to (sometimes) hard worker but it's kind of hard to be inspired to work hard when "lazy bastards" don't do the work you do but are paid the same wage. I did the "work harder thing" when I was in the army. Do you know what it taught me? I learned that the people that work harder often get bigger workloads with more responsibility for the same pay and when it came to wanting to get job-related training away from my job, I was often turned down because other people couldn't handle my workload (or knew how I set up the things I did) while I was away. Long story short: Where's the my motivation?
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Old Dec 6th, 2003, 06:07 PM       
Oh. That. I totally thought you were just kidding.
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