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Old May 6th, 2004, 09:11 PM        THE ECONOMY IS STRONG AND THAT'S BAD NEWS FOR LIBERALS.
http://news.myway.com/top/article/id/63342|top|05-06-2004::14:05|reuters.html

Jobless Claims Hit 2000 Low

May 6, 1:49 PM (ET)

By Alister Bull
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - America's employment outlook brightened on Thursday after the government said jobless claims dropped last week to their lowest since 2000, bolstering expectations for strong numbers in the April jobs report.

U.S. Treasury bond yields hit a two-year high on the unexpectedly rosy number and the dollar climbed 1 percent against the yen as markets bet heavily the Federal Reserve will hike interest rates this summer as the economy warms.

The picture of a better jobs climate was also backed by an unexpected increase in unit labor costs in the first quarter, alongside respectable productivity growth of 3.5 percent.

First-time claims for state unemployment benefits shrank 25,000 to 315,000 in the week ended May 1, the Labor Department said. It was the third straight week of declines.

Wall Street analysts had forecast a slight fall in claims to 335,000 from a revised 340,000 the previous week.

Grant Wilson, vice president of foreign exchange at Mellon Bank in Pittsburgh, said the jobless numbers were a good omen on the eve of the April employment report.

"We weren't expecting anything as (good) as this. It bodes well for the unemployment number tomorrow," Wilson said.

April non-farm payrolls are set for release at 8:30 a.m. EDT (1230 GMT) on Friday and are forecast to show creation of 173,000 new jobs. That would be a marked moderation from March, when 308,000 were added, but still evidence that labor conditions are tightening.

Last week's jobless claims data will make no difference to the April report, which was drawn from a survey in the middle of last month. But the upbeat tone chimed with a broad sense that the outlook was bright.

WAGE PRESSURES?

"The abundance of risks to our forecast of an employment gain of 150,000 for April is to the upside," Bank of America economist Gary Bigg warned clients in a note.

In Thursday's data, in addition to lower initial claims the four-week moving average of insurance filings, which smooths weekly fluctuations to provide a better picture of trends, retreated by 3,750 to 343,250.

Also, the number of unemployed on the benefit rolls after claiming an initial week of aid dropped 69,000 to 2.935 million in the week ended April 24, the latest for which figures are available. This was the lowest since June 2001, in the middle of the recession, when 2.933 million people were drawing unemployment insurance.

The drop points in a positive direction for the jobs market since the number had been indicating that while layoffs had slowed, firms were not rushing to hire new workers and had been utilizing greater productivity to meet rising demand.

Labor said productivity rose again in the first quarter, increasing at a 3.5 percent annual rate, as expected. But unit labor costs turned 0.5 percent higher, defying market forecasts for costs to be flat.

"The rise in unit labor costs is not worrying, but it is the least good performance in a year, and the chances are that the next few quarters will see bigger increases," said Ian Shepherdson, chief U.S. economist at High Frequency Economics in Valhalla, New York.

Powerful productivity growth has helped companies keep a lid on compensation costs but the pick-up in employment had been expected to signal the end of this cycle, and the Fed likely will take note of the uptick in costs.

The central bank is expected to hike interest rates for the first time in four years in the months ahead. However, after a regular meeting on Tuesday at which it left rates at a 1958-low of 1 percent, it announced it would be "measured" in removing policy accommodation.
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Old May 6th, 2004, 09:48 PM       
For anyone who cares, there is a list on CNN for U.S. companies that are known to outsource.
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Old May 6th, 2004, 10:07 PM       
They outsource because they are the 2nd highest taxed in the world.
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Old May 6th, 2004, 10:08 PM        The Fuckin' List
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For anyone who cares, there is a list on CNN for U.S. companies that are known to outsource.
Its an ongoing series which is discussed on CNN's Lou Dobbs Tonight (mid-page, 'Exporting America': The List).
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Old May 6th, 2004, 10:10 PM       
Yeah that one.
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Old May 6th, 2004, 10:21 PM       
Save American jobs.....lower taxes on corporations.
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Old May 6th, 2004, 10:47 PM       
I don't know if people are going to care about the economy so much this time around. They will, but not to the degree they have in the past.

And if the economy is doing so well, then why is gas $2.00 (and more) a gallon?
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Old May 6th, 2004, 10:48 PM       
lowering taxes on corporations doesn't do much for that minimum wage they still have to pay here, and not everywhere else.
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Old May 7th, 2004, 12:28 AM       
lowering taxes for corporations just buys the fat CEO another car. maybe they will use the extra money to take out more life insurance plans in their employees... or as its better known: the "Dead Peasents Insurance"
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Old May 7th, 2004, 02:01 AM       
Has anyone noticed that the only stuff Raygun posts that's longer than one to three sentences is something he didn't write?

Just sayin'.
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Old May 7th, 2004, 09:25 AM       
Say, Nalds, are you salaried or hourly?

If hourly, is it going to piss you off when you loose your overtime pay and they start making you work weekends?
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Old May 7th, 2004, 10:22 AM       
He'll just be able to quit and get a better job at the drop of a hat if they do that, Max. You know, to show his disapproval.
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Old May 7th, 2004, 08:21 PM       
Lowering taxes on corporations does not increase incentives for American corporations to stay here. We tax foreign profits as well as those earned in the motherland.
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Old May 8th, 2004, 08:07 AM       
MM, gas is 2 bucks a gallon because oil is highly priced, we don't have enough refineries, and the EPA standards for different regions means one region cannot sell its gasoline to one in short supply.

You can blame the arabs for 1 and the environazis for 2 and 3
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Old May 8th, 2004, 08:28 AM       
the economy is a huge issue for states like ohio and i guarantee that it will be a factor in the upcoming election.

we pay some of the highest income and sales taxes in the country and we can't keep jobs in the area, keep cops on the street or keep our schools from closing. i understand that most of those factors are local issues, but still...with gas prices going up and some of our major companies (sbc) outsourcing, you can't help but believe that some of the blame has to shift to a greater power.

it's really, really bad here. we're considering a move to a different state if it keeps up. in the past 6 months we have laid off 250 police officers, 618 teachers and sbc is about to go on strike. gas is near $2 a gallon and the mayor and the chief of police are both calling for another quarter percent income tax increase.
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Old May 8th, 2004, 12:17 PM       
just like clinton kicked thousands out of welfare then claimed welfare claims were down at record numbers, the bush admin is counting people out of the unemployment system as having jobs.

i suspect the job growth is a result of the security state growing on the debt.. i wouldnt count it as a successful recovery but a successful prisonification.. but i'm just guessing.

taxes!? you ass ron.. corporations already pay an average of over 50% less taxes proportionally than citizens.
even the IRS has its website maintained by a company incorporated in Bermuda! damnit

checkout http://jobwatch.org/index.html for some info on actual vs. bush admin projected(and reported) job gains.. they even have some graphics for those that don't want to read it
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Old May 8th, 2004, 12:55 PM       
If only the State was allowed to control the markets. Then everything would be fine.
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Old May 8th, 2004, 06:34 PM       
I want to explode all over this thread.

I just can't figure out where to start.
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Old May 8th, 2004, 06:37 PM       
ranxer, are you EVER happy with ANYTHING?
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Old May 8th, 2004, 06:43 PM       
Follow his link and tell him what he has to be happy about.
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Old May 8th, 2004, 06:54 PM       
"hey, everything was really shitty last year, but we don't want things to get better because then we won't be able to bitch"
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Things arent getting better, you crusted anal secretion. You're being told they're getting better, by people who need you to believe they're getting better so that they can remain in power, and you're suckling on the propaganda nipple like a newborn right-wing piglet looking for a teat and finding the business end of a Desert Eagle.


Read a fucking book.
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Old May 8th, 2004, 08:35 PM       
hahahaha, look at davin! he thinks he's people!

you sit here arguing on a message board, thinking you're some grand scholar in an ivory tower, trying to tell me that I'm being led around by the right wing machine in some Illuminati-esque conspiracy without realizing just how stupid you look. the simple fact of the matter is that we are NOT going to return to the levels of prosperity we enjoyed in the 90's overnight. it's a process, slow and steady, and I think that ANY improvement, no matter how slight, should be celebrated. you, on the other hand, are a great purple screaming lesion of the cock.

and when you actually finish a book more than 100 pages long, then you can come talk to me. you still won't be on my level, but I don't mind talking down.
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Old May 9th, 2004, 06:33 AM       
well, it's not getting better here...and i think i read somewhere that no republican president has ever won an election without winning ohio.
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Old May 9th, 2004, 07:43 PM       
What none of you seem to understand is that while corporations are taxed...they don't in fact pay taxes.

Can you grasp that?

Do you understand that they are just going to pass the cost of taxes on to the consumer so that anytime THEY are taxed it just ends up being a tax increase on YOU.

You probably have never realized that because you are more concerned with hating who you precieve as being rich.

"Things arent getting better, you crusted anal secretion. You're being told they're getting better, by people who need you to believe they're getting better so that they can remain in power, and you're suckling on the propaganda nipple like a newborn right-wing piglet looking for a teat and finding the business end of a Desert Eagle." - Davinxtk

This is complete shit. It's widely accepted and it's a proven fact that "things are better". The stock market has recovered, interest raetes are way down, unemployment is down according to unbiased govt. stats.........but that disproves your point so you reach for some bullshit conspiracy.

"taxes!? you ass ron.. corporations already pay an average of over 50% less taxes proportionally than citizens." - Ranxer

That's completely irrelevent. We have the 2nd highest taxed corporations in the world. When you factor that with the fact that corporations exist soley to make a profit you begin to understand why they are leaving.

"lowering taxes for corporations just buys the fat CEO another car. maybe they will use the extra money to take out more life insurance plans in their employees... or as its better known: the "Dead Peasents Insurance"." - mesobe

You would have to be just plain ignorant and lazy to say something like this. Corporations don't pay taxes as it is. A pay cut for corporations simply means the consumer gets a better deal.
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