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Old Jan 7th, 2004, 11:01 PM       
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Is OAO the new Vince yet?
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ARE YOU THE NEW STOOPID-HEAD YET?
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Old Jan 8th, 2004, 04:55 PM       
In one thread, the guy's ridiculing Berkely, then the next thing he does is try to defend "reality" as a physical, not metaphysical, thing. Causes, by defniition, apply to physical things. The idea of any kind of subjective "reality" simply does not apply within the context of "caused things". And to use Hume in supporting any kind of an argument in which anything has a cause on anything else is ridiculous to start with. Have you even read anything by him?!
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Old Jan 8th, 2004, 05:29 PM        LOL
I just want to know if I'm supernatural. Cause....ya know....that would be kinda nifty.
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Old Jan 8th, 2004, 06:23 PM       
kellychaos:

Well, OAO is a little sloppy with words. Reality for him seems to be the entire contents of the universe.

His mistake is taking a characteristic of the parts and applying it to the whole. He does this because he takes the universe to be a separate thing in addition to being a collection of things. It would be like saying that a matrix of numbers is also a number, and the rules for numbers can be applied to the matrix. But obviously this is wrong.

Now, if he were to mean "Big Bang" instead of the universe, then yeah, you have the well known question of what caused the Big Bang. I don't see how this demonstrates the existence of the supernatural in any way however.

As far as his second point goes, well, it's quite dumb and obvious. And it shows absolutely nothing.
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Old Jan 8th, 2004, 06:29 PM       
Moreover, he makes no clear definition of what a 'thing' is. It seems that ideas, and parts of things, are things also. It's ludicrous.
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Old Jan 8th, 2004, 07:38 PM       
Damn it, I already replied to that before HALF THE FUCKING POSTS GOT DELETED!

I define reality as a set in which all existing things are within. Obviously, this set does not exist when nothing is in it.
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Old Jan 8th, 2004, 09:23 PM       
Since the board ate it the last time I posted it......

All super-gay threads must be locked.
This thread is super-gay.
This thread must be locked.

Choke on that syllogism, Sparky.
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Old Jan 8th, 2004, 10:33 PM       
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The equation is flawed.

Girls = Time + Money, not Time x Money. "And" implies addition.
In Boolean logic, "And" is multiplication.
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Old Jan 9th, 2004, 04:38 PM       
The supernatural does not exist; therefore any laws of cause and affect do not apply within the context of of an argument describing how things within our perceived reality have come to exist. Simple enough for you?
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Old Jan 9th, 2004, 05:15 PM       
The bottom line is that sometimes, people overthink a problem. Case in point: this thread. Achimp saved it from being another OAO sleep aid. Now, though, it's time to put it out of my misery.
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