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Old May 11th, 2006, 09:16 AM        NSA joins W in declaring itself not subject to rule of law
Security Issue Kills Domestic Spying Probe
The Associated Press

Thursday 11 May 2006

Washington - The government has abruptly ended an inquiry into the warrantless eavesdropping program because the National Security Agency refused to grant Justice Department lawyers the necessary security clearance to probe the matter.

The Justice Department's Office of Professional Responsibility, or OPR, sent a fax to Rep. Maurice Hinchey, D-N.Y., on Wednesday saying they were closing their inquiry because without clearance their lawyers cannot examine Justice lawyers' role in the program.

"We have been unable to make any meaningful progress in our investigation because OPR has been denied security clearances for access to information about the NSA program," OPR counsel H. Marshall Jarrett wrote to Hinchey. Hinchey's office shared the letter with The Associated Press.

Jarrett wrote that beginning in January, his office has made a series of requests for the necessary clearances. Those requests were denied Tuesday.

"Without these clearances, we cannot investigate this matter and therefore have closed our investigation," wrote Jarrett.

Justice Department spokesman Brian Roehrkasse said the terrorist surveillance program "has been subject to extensive oversight both in the executive branch and in Congress from the time of its inception."

Roehrkasse noted the OPR's mission is not to investigate possible wrongdoing in other agencies, but to determine if Justice Department lawyers violated any ethical rules. He declined to comment when asked if the end of the inquiry meant the agency believed its lawyers had handled the wiretapping matter ethically.

Hinchey is one of many House Democrats who have been highly critical of the domestic eavesdropping program first revealed in December. He said lawmakers would push to find out who at the NSA denied the Justice Department lawyers security clearance.

"This administration thinks they can just violate any law they want, and they've created a culture of fear to try to get away with that. It's up to us to stand up to them," said Hinchey.

In February, the OPR announced it would examine the conduct of its own agency's lawyers in the program, though they were not authorized to investigate NSA activities.

Bush's decision to authorize the largest U.S. spy agency to monitor people inside the United States, without warrants, generated a host of questions about the program's legal justification.

The administration has vehemently defended the eavesdropping, saying the NSA's activities were narrowly targeted to intercept international calls and e-mails of Americans and others inside the U.S. with suspected ties to the al-Qaida terror network.
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Old May 11th, 2006, 02:56 PM       
And on a (unfortunate) similar note....

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...5-10-nsa_x.htm

NSA has massive database of Americans' phone calls

"The National Security Agency has been secretly collecting the phone call records of tens of millions of Americans, using data provided by AT&T, Verizon and BellSouth, people with direct knowledge of the arrangement told USA TODAY.

The NSA program reaches into homes and businesses across the nation by amassing information about the calls of ordinary Americans — most of whom aren't suspected of any crime. This program does not involve the NSA listening to or recording conversations. But the spy agency is using the data to analyze calling patterns in an effort to detect terrorist activity, sources said in separate interviews."
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Old May 12th, 2006, 09:05 AM       
It's like Geggy is writing the script for reality.

Hey! Geggy! Are you God? If so, cut it the fuck out!
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Old May 12th, 2006, 11:15 AM       
Ok...ok...I will try and rewrite the script...

The democrats will win the 06 election and retake the seat, therefore in their next attempt to force the nsa to allow judgical system to open the inquiry into nsa's illegal wiretapping activity will become more probable. Then the bush admin will be in a deep doodoo, leading to several arrests and indictments. The bush crime family, including daddy and mommy bush and their kids and grandkids will be forever banished from the US into a small island somewhere in the midst of the bermuda triangle where mother nature will give them the most severe punishment imaginible. Dick cheney will suffer his 20th and his last heart attack due to high stress and breakdowns after finding out troops and contracters are pulled out of middle east, creating a huge mess into the halliburtons contracts and forcing them to apply for bankrupty. Their illegal profits will be reimbursed to the national debt to cut it in half.

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Old May 12th, 2006, 12:14 PM       
Ugh, it's just one poll I know, but damnit man....

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=1953464

Phone-Records Surveillance Is Broadly Acceptable to Public

"May 12, 2006 — Americans by nearly a 2-1 ratio call the surveillance of telephone records an acceptable way for the federal government to investigate possible terrorist threats, expressing broad unconcern even if their own calling patterns are scrutinized.

Lending support to the administration's defense of its anti-terrorism intelligence efforts, 63 percent in this ABC News/Washington Post poll say the secret program, disclosed Thursday by USA Today, is justified, while far fewer, 35 percent, call it unjustified."
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Old May 12th, 2006, 02:04 PM       
This is what comes from no longer teaching civics in ur public schools.
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Old May 17th, 2006, 08:06 PM       
I still say the only way to win the War on Terror is offering lolli-pops to anyone that does NOT blow something up or murder people. Maybe they should have to sign a paper saying so, but I don't think anything more than that is necessary. If a terrorist doesn't want to talk about his job, he shouldn't have to and that should be the end of it. If a terrorist wants to plan an attack with another terrorist on the phone, who are we to care? The only reason they are planning such stuff is that they're mad we haven't instituted my lolli-pop idea. Everybody likes lolli-pops.
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