Jan 3rd, 2006, 06:13 PM
"How do you suppose people determine if a certain drug works or not? Randomized, double-blind clinical trials. If it's a vaccine or treatment, it doesn't take a genius to realize that it's grossly unethical to intentionally expose people to avian flu, just to see if it works. "
Yea no shit that couldn't have anything to do with what I was saying at all. "This button might deactivate the bomb, but we're not sure. We'll just have to wait for it to go off before we test it, eh?"
Jesus christ, you'd think i said, "Don't do anything" instead of, "Do more but be smart about it".
Also, why would the vaccine kill people? Sure, it happens sometimes. But this is our super medical system with vaccines that prevent illnesses. PREVENT meaning TAKES CARE OF IT BEFORE IT HAPPENS. YOU DONT GIVE SOMEONE A VACCINE WHEN THEY ALREADY HAVE THE ILLNESS(that somtimes makes it worse I've heard). SO NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE MAKING A TEST RUN ON IT ANYWAYS, VACCINES ARE, BY THEIR VERY NATURE, DESIGNED TO BE INCAPABLE OF SPREADING INFECTION BECAUSE IT'S ESSENTIALLY A DEADLY FLU CRIPPLED SO THE BODY CAN EAT IT FASTER.
CONGRATULATIONS FOR UNDERSTANDING HOW VACCINES WORK, YOU ARE TRULY THE SMARTEST OF THE SMARTEREST.
"what you're talking about are general practicioners."
General practicioners? What the hell else would I be talking about for mental institutions? If I or half of the world were rich enough to afford fancy panted specialist psychologists I don't think they would have so many problems in the first place.
And how the hell does it being, "General practicioners" (the word that means MOST) alleviate my point of any validity? "Well, there's one or two fantastic psychologists who I know who are good and they completely balance out the half a million who became a psychologist because they needed a job".
Where do most of the people who really need psychologists go? General practicioners. Thanks buddy.
"Prisons aren't full of bad people because you know there's at least one person in there who's innocent! let's release all of them!"
You need to get into politics.
"well, then you went to see a shitty psychologist. it happens."
Geez I wonder how often that happens with psychologists or just regular old doctors oh wait I already posted that information.
"found that 36% of 815 consecutive patients on a general medical service of a university hospital had an iatrogenic illness"
"If it does transfer to humans, then scientists will develop a vaccine. Most of this is hype."
Vaccines are usually supposed to be extant before you get the illness-- that's generally the idea. That's why they made these vaccines of the flu it's supposed to mutate from, but they don't know if it will work or how well. Also, they are producing lots of tamiflu which they aren't exactly sure how will work. According to this thread, the original topic that everyone dances around like fuckfaces, was that tamiflu wasn't working and it was actually making things worse, or maybe just not contributing a helping hand. Hence this thread. I'm glad everyone is caught up now. Basically: Will the measures that the government is taking help at all?
My position is, "Could something better be done?" with a side of, "Doctors are all liars".
It doesn't really matter what you say, all medications have side-effects. When people are sick, they are given medicine. Medicine is 'generally' a downward spiral. I can't think of many people who took medicines who didn't end up taking more. There are of course exceptions to that, but I'm sure you get the drift.
That's all I was saying, is that our medical community is fucking bullshit. We can save lives but we can't preserve them-- mostly because there's less money in that.
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