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King Hadas · #**3526**

Borrowed a Wii and rented Silent Hill: Shattered Memories. I talked a lot of smack about this game and now I'm eating my words. I really enjoyed it. I can easily enumerate the doubts I had but the main thing was that this is a remake. "Re-imagining" conjures up a picture of some arrogant sack of shit who thinks he can redo and surpass a great piece of work simply because he has access to some modern tech but that's not what's happening here.

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In fact the game uses your familiarity of the series to fuck with you. The sequence where you have to take photographs and then those photographs turn out to be of Heather, that shit grossed me out.

And I love all this gimmicky shit; the wheelchair, the car sequences and how phone messages are actually played through your Wii-remote.

I didn't like the chase sequences though, if you can believe that.

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Originally Posted by Guitar Woman

Sirent Hirr Spoirers

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Although I think the "Heather is fucking completely insane" angle Shattered Memories might or might not present is pretty creative and dark and awesome, I'm not sure whether to consider it canon or not.

Canonical discussions are lame but it is hard to stick Shattered Memories in with the rest of the series. The aesthetics are almost completely different and there's no ambiguity.

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This game is pure psychology. Total opposite of Homecoming which was literally about magical cults and demons. I have to say, refuting the rest of the series is pretty radical and it's that kind of food for thought that makes Silent Hill so great.

Guitar Woman · #**3527**

The photographs got me too, although I still think my favorite part is the whole creepy runabout in the woods. It's the only part of the game that's got any sort of atmosphere beyond "there's nobody here."

darkvare · #**3528**

i was watching the endings and a dude posted a comment that made perfect sense they are not many endings but part of a forgotten reallity excluding the joke ending

King Hadas · #**3529**

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Originally Posted by Guitar Woman

my favorite part is the whole creepy runabout in the woods.

You mean the chase sequence?

I was equivocating a bit in my last post, this game is fucking brilliant.

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Do the monsters change shape with your psychological assessment? I played through again as a total sleazeball and I noticed all the monsters were female, maybe representing the other women in Harry's life, but this was at the end of the game and I don't recall what they looked like during the last play through or any other time for that matter. In the Cathouse there's a familiar face on the wall. I nodded yes to drunk and bully, so the woman in the voicemail telling you to take photos is a bully and a drunk. So why is Cheryl asking me to take photographs of herself? The Hawaiian shirt Harry wears at the end. What does it mean? WHAT DOES IT MEAN?

Guitar Woman · #**3530**

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Do the monsters change shape with your psychological assessment?

Yes, although I've still only played through it once

The deformities and wounds they had on mine were actually really creepy, I didn't like them :<

Also, the entire woods sequence, not just the chase part. I hate the chases a lot, but they're not dealbreakers. It just feels less like Clock Tower and more like the levels in Crash Bandicoot where you run away from the boulder.

One thing I thought was weird was when you examine the "ABCs of Drugs" poster at the high school, and Harry goes, "I do love my ABCs" in kind of a sly tone. Does that mean he's a massive cokehead or what?

King Hadas · #**3531**

The flashlight was making me motion sick while I was in the forest.

Also, the thing you said about Crash Bandicoot is exactly how I feel about the chases. They could almost be fun even but they add nothing to the atmosphere.

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Originally Posted by Guitar Woman

One thing I thought was weird was when you examine the "ABCs of Drugs" poster at the high school, and Harry goes, "I do love my ABCs" in kind of a sly tone. Does that mean he's a massive cokehead or what?

I bet you were a slacker in high school. You have to remember

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You're not playing as Harry Mason or even really how Cheryl remembers Harry Mason. You're playing as Cheryl's ideal version of her father. Scenes where Harry is moaning about his daughter are pretty pathetic when you know what's what. You notice how nervous Michelle is when you're about to leave for the Lighthouse. She only exists in context with Harry Mason so I imagine the bad feeling she gets is for herself since it's the last time they meet. Does Michelle appear in any other Silent Hills? I don't think she does. What does that mean? Some of the psychological changes seem kind of arbitrary to me. In my first game when I got to the hunting lodge there was an eviscerated bear corpse, next time their wasn't. The pawn shop changes names too and I just don't see the corollary between my psychological state and these differences. Some of them make sense though, like the movie at the theater changes. When I was playing as my real nice guy self it was "Mommy Dearest." ???. But when I was a mean drinking sex fiend it was "Bad Poison."

MarioRPG · #**3532**

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Originally Posted by Guitar Woman

The photographs got me too, although I still think my favorite part is the whole creepy runabout in the woods. It's the only part of the game that's got any sort of atmosphere beyond "there's nobody here."

For me that was like "oh christ where do I go." I actually felt 'lost'.

darkvare · #**3533**

anyone plans on getting heavy rain after playing the demo is just a rent for me

OxBlood · #**3534**

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Originally Posted by darkvare

anyone plans on getting heavy rain after playing the demo is just a rent for me

Nah, I´ll probably borrow it from a friend, it´s nothing I would buy (as long as there is something else to play at least).

10,000 Volt Ghost · #**3535**

I have to get Left 4 Dead now too. Once the Passing campaign comes out for L4D2 there's going to be a new campaign added onto L4D as well.

Fathom Zero · #**3536**

Really?

10,000 Volt Ghost · #**3537**

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_4_Dead_2#The_Passing

I've only played one campaign in the first one. I better get good at it quick.

kahljorn · #**3538**

its pretty much the same except you can hide in corners if you want :O

10,000 Volt Ghost · #**3539**

I'm decent with guns but sometimes I rely on melee.

Guitar Woman · #**3540**

Nobody is worse at Left 4 Dead than I am.

As an example, one time me and my butt-buddies for the day were patching up in a health room, and as it ended up I got an extra health kit that some other guy wanted later. I wasn't sure how to just give it to him without using it on him right away, so I tried the method with pills where you approach the character and right click to hand it to them.

What actually happened was Francis ran up and punched Louis right in the fucking face. Fucking hilarious, but not entirely functional.

Zomboid · #**3541**

Going between RE5, ME2 (insanity playthrough), and Modern Warfare 2. It's a pretty good mix, because I don't like playing RE5 as much as I did RE4.

10,000 Volt Ghost · #**3542**

I just played some L4D2 with some assjabs who's every move was to "Go left. Go fucking left.....Lockeness why the fuck aren't you going left??~?~! This game is designed to always go left!"

You know what guy. Fuck you in your fucking mouth. You know why no one goes left.....because its the fucking predetermined path....where they know you'll be coming. If I wanted to fucking go left I would have hopped on your merry fucking back and gave you a damn reach-around. Fuck I hate stupid people.

10,000 Volt Ghost · #**3543**

That and just beat RE5 Lost Nightmares on Pro mode.....

PLAY IT AGAIN SAM

Fathom Zero · #**3544**

I just saw bits of Introversion's new game and it made me go back and play Uplink again. It's stupid to be this excited for a game that comes out next year.

kamrinjacobs · #**3545**

I'm currently replaying Paper Mario: Thousand Year Door, and I'm trying to see how far I can go with 20 HP. Also, my boyfriend and I are currently running a co-op campaign on Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell for the Wii.

Sam · #**3546**

YOU FUCKING ORANGE SHIRTED COW, WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN YOU CAN'T PRY BRICKS OUT OF A FIREPLACE WITH A POKER, YOU CAN'T BASH THE SHIT OUT OF THEM WITH THE HAMMER (BECAUSE IT MAKES A MESS :FUCKYOUBITCH), AND THE ONLY WAY THAT YOU WILL REMOVE SAID BRICKS IS WITH A FUCKING LETTER OPENER THAT WAS HIDDEN IN A GODDAMN ONYX STATUE OR SOME SHIT