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A popular hack 10 71.43%
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Old Nov 10th, 2003, 11:13 AM        Writing: A question
Say that your career of choice was writing. Would you want to be a hack writer, writing for sitcoms, or pro wrestling, or SNL, who makes a lot of money but will ultimately be remembered not for the good stuff you wrote, but for your tepid characters like the gay neighbor?

Conversely, would you want to be a writer writing wonderful pieces, things that were appreciated by your fanbase, and pieces that you enjoyed writing, but pieces that would hardly make you any money at all?
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Old Nov 10th, 2003, 11:33 AM       
Hack, most deffinitely.

Being a starving artist will never enable hackdom, but the reverse is quite true.

A hack with money can pay his bills, feed his kids and write under another name, or use another name for his hackdom. It's a pathetic small amount, but I've sold stuff I wouldn't want my real name attatched to.

Of course, famous great writer, rich and beloved by all is preferable to either choice.
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Old Nov 10th, 2003, 11:40 AM       
Dammit this is just the question i was asking myself.

On one hand what max says is true, it is always nice to be able to afford to live.

On the other though i feel that i don't care about anything once i start expressing myself through art and self expression.

This is one of those questions that i asked when i was contimplating studying further into art and drop my language classes. Either way i still think that if i went one way and not the other i wouldn't be happy with my life, regardless.
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Old Nov 10th, 2003, 01:36 PM       
A hack.
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Old Nov 10th, 2003, 01:47 PM       
A hack who writes quality material on the side, like Max says.

Or in my case, a pop star who writes good music on the side.
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Old Nov 10th, 2003, 04:31 PM       
I wouldn't call SNL writers "hacks". They do put out some crap, but I think that is just a n issue of the sheer volume they write. Even Poe had is bad days.

Sitcoms? I agree with Kaufmann about them being the lowest form of comedy. Although, they do have their place.

I would have to say, I'd be a hack with a paycheck. A man's gotta eat.
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Old Nov 10th, 2003, 05:00 PM       
I know this is about writing but even DaVinci produced commissioned work for the Roman Catholic church and his religious beliefs ran more to the paganistic. Can't get closer to selling out than your religious views. Besides, can't one produce work that is both creative and profound while still appealing to a mass audience? ... probably not, in most cases.
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Old Nov 10th, 2003, 06:57 PM       
I think if DaVinci wasn't a Christian (I wouldn't know) he was less selling out for money than making sure he didn't get hanged. The Church wasn't too friendly to heathens in those days.
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Old Nov 10th, 2003, 07:01 PM       
max summed it up - i say hack too
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Old Nov 10th, 2003, 11:53 PM       
DaVinci supposedly wasn't actually a pagan. I think pagan would be a better term. He didn't exactly sunscribe to the Christian view of God and such, but he was hardly pagan.

And, if you are to believe some books that have come out in the last 2 decades, you would know about the rumors of the symbols he put in his paintings.
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Old Nov 11th, 2003, 02:43 AM       
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DaVinci supposedly wasn't actually a pagan. I think pagan would be a better term.
I understand that was a typo, but what did you mean by that?
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Old Nov 11th, 2003, 04:19 AM       
writing a british sitcom is my 'back-up' dream career to being a games developer.

i would love to do both somehow
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Old Nov 11th, 2003, 12:27 PM       
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DaVinci supposedly wasn't actually a pagan. I think pagan would be a better term.
I understand that was a typo, but what did you mean by that?
Holy shit, what did they put in the Kool-Aid? I meant to type

DaVinci supposedly wasn't actually a pagan. I think heretic would be a better term.
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Old Nov 12th, 2003, 04:29 PM       
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pa·gan ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pgn)
n.
One who is not a Christian, Muslim, or Jew, especially a worshiper of a polytheistic religion.
One who has no religion.
A non-Christian.
A hedonist.
A Neo-Pagan.

adj.
Not Christian, Muslim, or Jewish.
Professing no religion; heathen.
Neo-Pagan.
Isn't this pretty much the way I used it? If he wasn't Muslim, Jewish, Christian or practices no religion at all that would make him ... what? Yes. Pagan. Anyway, my slight knowledge of this comes from reading biographies and some stuff on the history channel. Very little of from fictional accounts. How many people out there are writing fictional accounts of Da Vinci?
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