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Old Sep 2nd, 2006, 04:53 PM       
It doesn't make you a Jew, it makes you a descendent of Jews and with that comes both the biblical burden/priviledge (that you're welcome to ignore like, most modern Jews do). Judaic lineage is based on spiritual souls and not bloodlines. Look into how Jews percieve death.

Judaism is not the only religion that does this, by the way.

Courage - I'm not sure I'm following you with the difference between a Hebrew and a Jew. There are Chinese Jews who are every bit as Jewish as the Mesopotamian Hebrews. Their tribes trace all the way back without any conversions needed. Same with the Jews of India.
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Old Sep 4th, 2006, 10:03 AM       
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Judaism is open to any sincere convert, you utter fucking moron.
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Marilyn Monroe and Elizabeth Taylor were/are Jewish converts.
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Old Sep 4th, 2006, 12:43 PM       
Thi argument is totally Jewish.

My Dad always said if you saw two Jewish boys waiting for the subway and they were arguing, the argument was about which of them was a better Jew. If they weren't arguing, they were agreeing that they were both better Jews than some third, currently not present Jew they knew.


Of course, that was back when Brooklyn was the Old World.

PS: Know who else is Jewish? Jewbacca.
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Old Sep 4th, 2006, 02:20 PM       
The singer of Disturbed is Jewish.

The singer of System of a Down is from Israel.
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Old Sep 4th, 2006, 04:01 PM       
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My Dad always said if you saw two Jewish boys waiting for the subway and they were arguing, the argument was about which of them was a better Jew. If they weren't arguing, they were agreeing that they were both better Jews than some third, currently not present Jew they knew.
No wonder.
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Old Sep 4th, 2006, 04:09 PM       
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Judaism is strange in that it is based primarily on blood and not belief.
Judaism is open to any sincere convert, you utter fucking moron.

And yes, I'm a Jew and this had better not turn into another Israel debate thread.
Of course it's open to any convert, it is a religion - and one of the better ones for that matter.

And I have read the Torah, as well as Book of Haftaroth.

I didn't say once during my post that you had to be of Jewish blood to practice Judaism.

READ, you moron, before jumping on someone.
You said that it was based PRIMARILY on blood and NOT belief, douchie mcfucktard.
Does anyone have any stats on the number of converts to Judaism vs the average birth rate of Jews worldwide?

That would settle the argument, I think.
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Old Sep 4th, 2006, 07:14 PM       
No wonder what, Abcdxzdchzdfkjd? That I don't support the policies of Israel or that I'm a self hating Jew? Or some other 'no wonder' that I can't even begin to guess at because your intrapersonal development stopped at age three and you think everyone has access to your thoughts?
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Old Sep 4th, 2006, 09:18 PM       
No wonder. It speaks for itself.

We can deduct the message of your dad's joke and wonder how you ended up as warped as you did.
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Old Sep 4th, 2006, 09:18 PM       
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The singer of System of a Down is from Israel.
No, he's from Armenia.
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Old Sep 4th, 2006, 09:43 PM       
Oh okay that place is cool.

So how can I "pimp my jew" and make people think I am even more jew and a pimp.

Maybe a large gold star of david hanging round my neck. Jewel encrusted hannukah. And of course when I say hannukah I mean whatever that head deal is. fuck yeah that thing yeah.

The root word of "Jewel" is "Jew."
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Old Sep 4th, 2006, 09:53 PM       
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So how can I "pimp my jew" and make people think I am even more jew and a pimp.
You'll need a couple of Hasidic thugs rolling with you.
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Old Sep 5th, 2006, 09:47 AM       
"No wonder. It speaks for itself.

We can deduct the message of your dad's joke and wonder how you ended up as warped as you did."
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Wait, is it 'no wonder' or does it 'make you wonder'? You need to express yourself more clearly.

What would you say is the message of the joke?

I'd say it is a sweeping generalization stating that Jews are argumentative and overly concerned with religous status as oppposed to piety. It's also a commentary on how Brooklyn Jews of my fathers class felt a need to own more truth than their peers, always be right. I've always find Jews write the best Jew jokes, but then you have a jones against Mel Brooks, for the love of Christ. I bet you don't like Philip Roth or Bernard Malamud either.
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Old Sep 5th, 2006, 03:09 PM       
Hey if being Jewish is all about Phillip Roth, and Mel Brooks to you who am I to burst that bubble. I don't know what sort of response, or interaction you're reaching for here.... but then again, that lovely joke sure did offer some insight as to how you were raised to percieve Jews.
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Old Sep 5th, 2006, 07:24 PM       
Meh. Jews = just another group, IMO. I care about the ones in America, and I am disinterested in the ones that are not in the USA.

Just like I view every other ethnic group, including my own.
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Old Sep 5th, 2006, 09:23 PM       
I don't know, my empathy for mankind tends to extend beyond our comfortable borders....and when Jews are persecuted in far off places like Argentina or Cuba, where nobody even knows they exist, I take it personally.
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Old Sep 5th, 2006, 09:29 PM       
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I don't know, my empathy for mankind tends to extend beyond our comfortable borders....and when Jews are persecuted in far off places like Argentina or Cuba, where nobody even knows they exist, I take it personally.
Well, I can understand that.

I just don't think that way myself.
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Old Sep 5th, 2006, 11:12 PM       
I wouldn't expect you to...it's a dual nationalism thing...but most everyone has their own version of that I find. There must be some tribal bond you feel with someone in that same way. We all belong to little communities usually without knowing it.
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Old Sep 6th, 2006, 09:23 AM       
WHAT insights, Abgdzsmzdc? THAT's the question I'm asking you.
I think it would be... enlightening to hear what you insights are.

I think having to put it into actual words instead of just snide flippancy would be very revealing. What does that joke say about you to me.

But you'll probably just blow off a response, smart guy. Actually saying what you mean might be putting your neck out to far. Until you do it boils down to "I know you are but what am I?", a level of discourse right up your alley.
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Old Sep 6th, 2006, 01:47 PM       
Grow up.
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Old Sep 6th, 2006, 03:13 PM       
"But you'll pronbably just blow off a response."
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Old Sep 6th, 2006, 04:19 PM       
what would i be responding to?
work those issues out on your own.
or hell, just pass them down to your kids.
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Old Sep 7th, 2006, 08:50 AM       
Translation:

I'm not clear enough on what I think to even put it into a sentence, and I have a sneaking suspicion if I tried it would reveal I'm a complete prick.
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Old Sep 7th, 2006, 02:49 PM       
translation: you're the real punchline to the joke.... and nobody cares, really.
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Old Sep 8th, 2006, 09:42 AM       
But you can't describe the punchline, or you would have. And I care enough o pose the question, and you care enough to dodge it with dedication, because you don't want to give away anything about yourelf not directly connected with an area of xpertise where you believe you can lord it over everyone.

So that's two people who care, right there.

It's why you are a dick. Life becomes more pleaant when you're less of a dick. Tell you what, maybe if you try it, I'll try reading some of the stuff you insist everybody has to wade through before their worthy to question you about anything.
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Old Sep 8th, 2006, 03:42 PM       
Hey man, stay as ignorant as you want, but blaming an asshole on the internet for why you're too lazy to do some research makes you pathetic.
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