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Cosmo Electrolux · #26

then the blacks and jews and faggots and retards and .................................................. .................................................. ..................

kellychaos · #27

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Originally Posted by AChimp

I RESIST YOUR SARCASM.

Respect his ironic AUTHORITI!

Pub Lover · #28

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Originally Posted by Cosmo Electrolux

then the blacks, jews and faggots...

See, I was with you right up till you got silly.

FartinMowler · #29

I don't mind that they ban it from the work place but they should allow it in a section of a Bar that is isolated. Alot of Donut shops here in Ontario have spent money building such rooms for people stupid enough to encase themselves and I think they should have the right to stink and get cancer at an elevated pace.

Zebra 3 · #30

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Or smokers could wear little domes to keep all their by-products to themselves.

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Mr. Vagiclean · #31

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But I also think its up to the owner of the estabolishment. We live in the INFORMATION age. Everyone knows the risk of smoking and being around a lot of smokers. If you don't want to work around alot smokers in a bar because your afraid you won't live to be 80, WORK IN A FUCKING FACTORY.

Its about time people start taking responcibilty for there own short comings.

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Originally Posted by Bobo Adobo

In enclosed places it is. But banning in all public places, like ireland did, is just fucking rediculous.

I Hate the smell of cigarette smoke, I don't even let people smoke in my car. But like I said, I'm a civil liberties nut. I don't want to live in a country where big brother is telling me what I can and can't smoke/drink.

so the workers or the patrons in a bar who doesn't want any smoke near them has to decide whether to "suck it up" or "quit the job and move to another location because you care for your health"?

ziggytrix · #32

Yes, they have to go find a bar where the owner doesnt like smokers and doesn't allow it in his bar. Or they can start their own smoke-free bar.

Or they can petition the bar owner to make the establishment smoke-free.

But bleeding-heart do-gooders who don't even fucking GO to bars have no right to be pushing legislation to ban smoking in those bars.

AChimp · #33

Public health regulations don't work that way. Would you be in favour of allowing lepers to walk freely around in public, perhaps even sitting next to you on the bus?

Rongi · #34

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Originally Posted by Cosmo Electrolux

or you could make them wear a special insignia on their shirt...like say a little black lung....and then round them all up and move them into a huge area that is surrounded by razor wire...like Utah....and they could be with others of their ilk and smoke to their hearts content....untill they all drown in their own mucus or die of cancer or heart attacks....then we could round up all of the fat people.........................................

You stole that from Carlin except changed it around, jerk

thebiggameover · #35

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Originally Posted by AChimp

Public health regulations don't work that way. Would you be in favour of allowing lepers to walk freely around in public, perhaps even sitting next to you on the bus?

oh , so i'm a leper now?

AChimp · #36

Yeah, basically. And you also lost out to a rockstar black dude.

kellychaos · #37

If it's a government funded area or builiding meant for the whole public to use, then I agree. However, I think that there's a bit too much regulation and/or interference by the government nowadays. So where does the rights of the public begin and the rights of the business owner begin. After all, it is HIS business, right? If you don't want to patronize a business with a smoke-filled atmsophere, then don't. Take a little responsibility for yourself. It's really that simple.

AChimp · #38

You shouldn't have to base decisions on what to do in your spare time on the habits of others. If people want to smoke, they can go outside or do it in the privacy of their own homes.

My right to not breathe in your second-hand smoke overrides your right to spew it wherever you choose because it's a public health issue.

ziggytrix · #39

And your rights override the rights of the business owner to run his business as he sees fit?

You're a bigger wanker than I thought.

Edit: Out of curiosity chimp, how often do you go to bars?

Pub Lover · #40

I could have gone to a bar last night but none of my friends were available.

So I played Return to Castle Wolfenstein instead.

AChimp · #41

Crap, wrong account again.

AChimp · #42

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And your rights override the rights of the business owner to run his business as he sees fit?

You're a bigger wanker than I thought.

Yep. Public health, remember? What if he decides to rub his burgers across the floor before serving them? Second-hand smoke makes people sick, just like salmonella can.

I haven't been to a bar in a few weeks, but that's a personal choice rather than the fact that there's no smoking. I can tell you that the bars here have had ZERO drop in business, though. In fact, the bars and casinos here have all had increases in business since the smoking ban was put in effect, so, remind me again why business owners would have any basis for their complaints?

Baalzamon · #43

Simple fact of the matter is that if you are smoking indoors you are burning cigarettes.

Am I the only one that finds it absolutely retarded that lighting a plant on fire in an enclosed space was ever legal in the first place.

I dont give a fuck if people want to smoke, but under no circumstances should people to be allowed to smoke inside a building.

If your coffee, or beer, or meal is ruined becuase you cant combine it with cigarette smog thats too fucking bad because you are a retarded fucking moron for even considering smoking while you eat in the first place.

Bobo Adobo · #44

I think that was the most retarded post I have ever seen.

Achimp, you can't get salmonella from burgers, only from uncooked chicken. also Second hand smoke does get people "sick", but driving on the road can get you killed, skydiving can get you killed, riding a plane, listening to loud music can make you go deaf, eating red meat can give you high cholesteral, eating too much will give you a heart attack, eating to little will make you too skinny, eating to much celery will give you malnutrician, and so on.

You think that banning all these things for "public health", is a good thing? You know what the risks of 2nd hand smoke are, and you have the CHOICE to not go into a smoking estabolishment, or sit in the non-smoking area. You have the CHOICE to work in a bar, or an office building. I don't think you want the Gov't making choices for you.

AChimp · #45

You know what I was talking about with the burger analogy. Excuuuuse me for not getting my bacteria right.

Driving already has GOVERMENT REGULATIONS, or did you forget that? Would you prefer that everyone just drove the way they wanted to?

Everything else you mention only affects ONE person: the person that is consuming the read meat, the person that is eating too much or not enough, and so on. You can't spread your heart attack to other people by eating steaks. When you smoke, your habit is affecting everyone around you. That's the difference between "public" and "private."

Nice stereo-typical American attitude, though, putting your "god-given" rights before your responsibilities.

Bobo Adobo · #46

When you fart, your habit is affecting everyone around you. You want to outlaw farting too? Yes driving has regulations, but its still dangerous to public health. Smoking has regulations, but its still dangerous to public health. What is your Point? Would you also like the speed limt to be 25 mph on the interstate?

And since when is my attitude "sterotypical" by any means. In America, you are subject to watching countless ammounts of anti-smoking ads. But its illegal for smoking companies to even use certian media outlets for advertising. Me being a non-smoker, and suporting civil liberties, is by no means stereotypical american.

Baalzamon · #47

Limitting smoking to either outdoors, or your own private property (if you absolutely insist on smoking indoors) is perfectly reasonable.

Public buildings where both smokers and non smokers go should not be allowed to fill up with smog just to satisfy your habbits.

Simply allowing non smokers to "make a choice" and not go is a rediculous idea.

If I as a non smoker want to avoid indoor smoking, I basically cant go anywhere unless there is some sort of ban or limitation in place.

If you want to smoke, do it inside your own home or outdoors.

Dont make me limit my travel just to avoid it.

Why should I be restricted by your filthy habbit? YOU smoke, so YOU can be the one to stay in your own house while you do it!

AChimp · #48

Where has it been proven that farting causes cancer? Driving isn't a public health threat, either; any problems related to it are public safety issues. There's a difference: health issues deal with long term and biological effects, while safety issues deal with more immediate bodily harm.

Airbags that decapitate people are a safety issue, while crappy chair design that leads to chronic back pain is a health issue, see?

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In America, you are subject to watching countless ammounts of anti-smoking ads.

Oh, you poor muffin! However do you live? If you don't like the ads, you don't have to watch them.

Your attitude shows that you feel that people should have to accomodate whatever you decide to do just because you can do it. If you want to light up, dammit, you can light up and all the fuckers that were there before you can move if they don't like it. Then you all scratch your heads and wonder why people hate America.