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Old Feb 24th, 2003, 02:28 AM        Dolly, the first cloned sheep, put to sleep
She had an incurable lung disease, and premature arthritis. I just learned about it from SomethingAwful's article this Sunday.
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Old Feb 24th, 2003, 02:57 AM       
This is a serious question, and I'm only asking because I don't know a sheep's natural lifespan offhand.

Do you think she died because she was getting old, or because the cloning process possibly did have some defects?

It's something interesting to discuss, I believe.




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Old Feb 24th, 2003, 06:20 AM       
Current cloning technique causes the clones to age like twice as fast as a normal creature. This is most likely what happened to the sheep.
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Old Feb 24th, 2003, 11:03 AM       
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Old Feb 24th, 2003, 02:28 PM       
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Old Feb 24th, 2003, 06:28 PM       
So do you think that means that the first human clone they've been talking about (indeed if it's real) will age twice as quickly?

And Egon is the man lol
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Old Feb 24th, 2003, 06:31 PM       
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Old Feb 24th, 2003, 06:37 PM       
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Old Feb 24th, 2003, 06:58 PM       
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Old Feb 24th, 2003, 07:02 PM       
And weren't you busting other newbies for that? ::chuckles::

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Old Feb 24th, 2003, 07:08 PM       
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Old Feb 24th, 2003, 07:12 PM       
Funny, I was thinking the same thing about most of you people. If the way you treat newbies (hazing thrown out the window) is any indication of how you treat new people in real life, I imagine a supermodel walking up to you, asking you for a date, and you screaming down the street at her "FUCK OFF NEWBIE"

Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

And of course, sooner or later, I expect a pseudo-witty reply of the kind. Or one that's equal bits crude, involving a 4 letter word of some sort. By the way, I'd make sure I was looking over my shoulder if I were you when I was typing it. Wouldn't want to get sent to beddy-bye without supper, ya know.
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Old Feb 24th, 2003, 07:16 PM       
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Old Feb 24th, 2003, 07:17 PM       
Correction: YOU don't care. And I don't remember God parting the clouds and saying "This Guy MATTERS".
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Old Feb 24th, 2003, 07:26 PM       
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I imagine a supermodel walking up to you, asking you for a date, and you screaming down the street at her "FUCK OFF NEWBIE"
Well, I do that, but only because supermodels are constantly coming up to me and trying to distract me from whatever I am doing. I used to be polite and have sex with them just to shut them up, but it gets annoying after a while. Why can't they just leave me the hell alone?
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Old Feb 24th, 2003, 07:35 PM       
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Old Feb 24th, 2003, 09:11 PM        Premature Death by Cloning
FS is right. Dolly was 6 years old, and of course a normal lifespan would been 12. Now if we can only wish that them ratfuckin' bastard Raelians die of premature aging as well!!! -
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Old Feb 24th, 2003, 09:53 PM       
I don't know if they have ever figured out why Dolly aged so fast, but I wouldn't be surprised that it has something to do with telomeres (the ends of chromosomes that shorten as one ages). Also, you'd get more harmful mutations as DNA ages. It's as if there is some biological clock that you can't reset by nuclear transfer (cloning).
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Old Feb 25th, 2003, 12:40 AM       
damn, that sounds almost like the tagline for a sci-fi movie lol
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Old Feb 25th, 2003, 01:01 AM       
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Old Feb 25th, 2003, 12:14 PM       
cloning today, is done by putting the nucleai (I have NO idea how to spell that) of a normal human's cell in the eggcell of a female. the clones have therefore already aged as much as the original host when they are born. so, the clones die around the same time the original dies.
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