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Old Jul 20th, 2005, 11:31 PM        american gods
really really odd book. i'm enjoying it so far, but sometimes it drags on too much and some of the sexual stuff doesnt make a lot of sense ( an arab guy fucks a male ifrit but in the muslim religion homosexuality is extremely frowned upon ).
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Old Jul 20th, 2005, 11:39 PM       
thats not always true. in some areas, men will keep a boy strictly for sexual purposes. which i think is nasty because there is nothing attractive about a preteen boy
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Old Jul 21st, 2005, 12:10 AM        Re: american gods
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(an arab guy fucks a male ifrit but in the muslim religion homosexuality is extremely frowned upon).
I dont know if I just wasn't paying enough attention to the book or what but that part just seemed to come out of nowhere.
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Old Jul 21st, 2005, 08:55 AM       
Yeah, there are some chapters that primarily are there to establish the laws of the universe. Like how religions come into existence, fluctuate and come to and end. I think some elements from those chapters leak into the main narrative at points, but I don't really remember.

There's a new book set in the same universe coming out, Anansi Boys. I hear it's quite a bit shorter and with a different tone, though.
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Old Jul 22nd, 2005, 06:58 PM       
i'm almost done with the book, afterwards i'm going to buy neverwhere, a lot of reviews on amazon say it's better

SPOILERS

what the fuck was with that behind the scenes thing with the mechanical spider? who the fuck is whiskey jack supposed to be? if it spoils the ending dont say a damn thing

some of those establishing stories are honestly very boring. the slave ship one was horrifying and sad. The one with the girl who left milk out for peskies was a snore of a read. the one with salim was a very interesting read, if somewhat strange.
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Old Jul 22nd, 2005, 08:00 PM       
I liked most of the little stories, but yeah, they do take away from the momentum.

SPOILERS, BUT NOT REALLY SPOILERS FOR RONGI

Can't remember any spiders, but the behind the scenes stuff is as far as I remember some sort of id combined with a broad interpretation of Jung's collective unconcious. It's the primordial ooze for deities. Or not, it's been a while.

I'm pretty sure Whiskey Jack is brought up again, so I won't say anything, just to be on the safe side. I do know some stuff about him, so if he isn't explained by the end of the book, I can shed some light on him.
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Old Jul 22nd, 2005, 10:31 PM       
[MAYBE-SPOILAGE]Wasn't the metal spider a manifestation of an internet search engine?[/MAYBE-SPOILAGE]
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Old Jul 22nd, 2005, 10:53 PM       
MAJOR FUCKING SPOILER BELOW

WHAT THE FUCK WENSDAY IS SHADOW'S DAD!?!?!?!?!!?
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Old Jul 23rd, 2005, 12:36 AM       
Rongi, I dont think you drew nearly enough attention to that huge fucking spoiler by simply capitalizing it, maybe you should have spelled it out with dancing letters and surrounded it with large blinking arrows with the words "read me" written on them to really drive the point that it's only there for those of us who have finished the book.
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Old Jul 23rd, 2005, 02:25 AM       
IF YOU DON'T WANT SPOILERS & YOU'VE READ THIS FAR YOU SHOULDN'T BE BITCHING

Wasn't the familial relationship hinted at several times throughout the book?
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Old Jul 24th, 2005, 03:41 PM       
i finished the book yesterday ( shut up i'm a slow reader )

so far i think that was the best thing gaiman has ever done, but i have yet to read neverwhere

also, i must be retarded because i didnt realise till the very end that shadow is exactly like jesus. he died at the same age as jesus did ( early 30s ) came back to life by a god named EASTER, did magic tricks ( coin tricks, water to wine ), was the son of god and man, etc.
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Old Jul 24th, 2005, 04:31 PM       
Neverwhere is awesome, too. Some similarity in that there's his usual world-within-a-world theme, but it comes off a lot more, hmmm, British(?).

But my favorite was his collaboration with Terry Pratchet Good Omens - if you chuckled even once druing American Gods, you'll bust a gut reading Good Omens.
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Old Nov 4th, 2005, 12:06 AM       
American Gods was a good read I always like odd stories about gods not many people follow anymore.....good stuff. I have to say that I prefered Neverwhere though....it inspired me to write my senior thesis on the developement of the Richmond sewer system.
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Old Nov 5th, 2005, 12:40 PM       
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Old Nov 20th, 2005, 09:43 PM       
i think i might be the only person on earth who likes american gods more than neverwhere.
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Old Nov 21st, 2005, 10:26 AM       
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Old Nov 21st, 2005, 06:15 PM       
I haven't read Neverwhere yet, but American Gods was pretty good. I felt like it was a little lackluster on the whole though...definitely doesn't compare to Sandman in my opinion. All of the identities of the gods were too easy to figure out...I mean, who didn't have Odin figured out by like the fifth page?
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Old Nov 22nd, 2005, 08:03 AM       
I have to admit that despite my Norse heritage, I didn't figure out the Low-Key Lyesmith thing before I got it spelled out, and I'm so ashamed I cry sometimes. But I did figure out Odin pretty fast.
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Old Nov 22nd, 2005, 01:08 PM       
i liked american gods better than neverwhere. american gods was just a lot more entertaining than neverwhere on the whole. i want to read this new book gaimen made in the american gods universe. i forget the name, but it's about two kids or something

i also didnt figure out low key locksmith till it was spelled out
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Old Nov 22nd, 2005, 02:47 PM       
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Old Nov 22nd, 2005, 05:39 PM       
You're thinking of Anansi Boys, Rongi. Is it out yet?
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