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Old Jul 30th, 2008, 02:57 PM       
So... no Solomon Grundy in number 3?
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Old Aug 2nd, 2008, 08:29 PM       
I didn't think it was all that great. :iconoclast

For starters, with Christian Bale as Bruce Wayne, all I could think was "American Psycho!" That wasn't Bruce Wayne talking to his friends, it was Patrick Bateman. Heath Ledger and Two-Face were good, but that isn't what bothered me.

It bothered me that the city looked too...normal. Gotham shouldn't look like just Anycity, USA, it should look like a dark, forbodeing metropolis. Tim Burton said that he wanted Gotham to look like "As if Hell came sprouting out of the concrete and kept right on growing.", He made sure to make it look scary and perpetually gloomy. That's what set the mood in Burton's movies, and made them enjoyable for me. But in this movie, so much of the action took place in broad daylight, it wasn't even remotely gloomy. It just didn't have the right atmosphere, at least not in my opinion.

Furthermore, since when does Batman operate out of a simple basement? What the hell happened to the Batcave? A little lame, if you ask me.
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Old Aug 2nd, 2008, 09:29 PM       
I agree with the setting being too normal for gotham city, but I think the simple basement fit his personality more than a cave would have.
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Old Aug 2nd, 2008, 09:38 PM       
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Furthermore, since when does Batman operate out of a simple basement? What the hell happened to the Batcave? A little lame, if you ask me.

I think he originally worked out of a basement or an abandoned complex, but he used to drive a poo brown buick too. Then later was the Batcave.
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Old Aug 2nd, 2008, 09:47 PM       
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I agree with the setting being too normal for gotham city, but I think the simple basement fit his personality more than a cave would have.
How so?
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Old Aug 2nd, 2008, 09:57 PM       
he was all about lookin' sharp and gettin the ladies, and the plain white basement with bright lights just kinda fit that. to me, at least?

i'm no movie critic, though!
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Old Aug 2nd, 2008, 10:36 PM       
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he was all about lookin' sharp and gettin the ladies, and the plain white basement with bright lights just kinda fit that. to me, at least?
Nah, it was too bare and stark. If that was what they were going for, they should've made the room look more sleek in some way.

By the way, did anyone else notice that the mayor was wearing eyeliner?
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Old Aug 3rd, 2008, 12:02 AM       
or he was super egyptian.




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Old Aug 3rd, 2008, 08:38 PM       
He was in a "basement" because Wayne Manor burnt down in the first movie, so why would he drive all the way there just to lurk in a cave? It was even mentioned in the movie by Alfred. JEANETTE, you are still a dope.

It's so depressing just how great The Joker was. It was almost so good that I could easily have seen the third movie introducing no new villains and just being him and Two-Face again. That line in his final speech about him and Batman being able to "do this forever" or whatever would have been the most exciting thing I had experienced since the joker card at the end of the first movie if I didn't already know that Heath Ledger was too dead to come back for another one. Gosh darn it.

PS Say what you will about Adam West; his movie was the only one where Batman was the best character (and not the WORST.)
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Old Aug 3rd, 2008, 08:51 PM       
Also, I don't know why, but one of my favourite parts was the Joker clapping along with all the police officers when they make Gordon the commissioner. Fabulous!

I predict that if Nolan decides to do a third, Two-Face will come back and Gordon will be forced to admit that it was Dent that committed the murders thus clearing Batman's name. Then I guess I could either see Bane or the Riddler. Both could work; I could see the latter portrayed more in the terrorism vein, remaining hidden and sending clues, that kind of thing. It doesn't have to be that Jim Carrey garbage again. But a portrayal of Bane that isn't completely horrible would be nice to see too.

Why is the Scarecrow a wuss now? I expected more out of that cameo. OH WELL.
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Old Aug 3rd, 2008, 09:08 PM       
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He was in a "basement" because Wayne Manor burnt down in the first movie
i mean i'm looking
down on wayne's basement. only
that's not wayne's basement
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Old Aug 3rd, 2008, 09:26 PM       
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He was in a "basement" because Wayne Manor burnt down in the first movie, so why would he drive all the way there just to lurk in a cave? It was even mentioned in the movie by Alfred. JEANETTE, you are still a dope.
Yeah.

I think it would be pretty easy to fit the riddler into that world. He's not too far-fetched and erasing the memory of the jim carrey riddler would be great.

Also, I really like scarecrow. I was hoping that he'd have more to do in this one, but I was glad that they brought him back just the same.
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Originally, there was only a secret tunnel that ran underground between Wayne Manor and an old barn where the Batmobile and Batplane were kept. Later, in Batman #12 (August-September 1942), Bill Finger mentioned "secret underground hangars". In 1943, the writers of the first Batman movie serial gave the Caped Crusader a complete underground crime lab and introduced it in the first chapter entitled "The Bat's Cave". Bob Kane, who was on the movie set, mentioned this to Bill Finger who was going to be the initial scripter on the BATMAN Daily Newspaper strip. Finger included with his script, a clipping from Popular Mechanics that featured a detailed cross section of underground hangars. Kane used this clipping as a guide, adding the crime lab, stalactites, stalagmites and bats. Thus, the Dark Knight's creators introduced the definitive Batcave in the Batman "dailies" on October 29, 1943;[1] and in January 1944, the Batcave made its comic book debut in Detective Comics #83[2][3]
In these early versions it was just a small cave with a desk, filing cabinets and laboratory. Behind the desk, the Batman's symbol was carved into the rock with a candle in the middle of it. With time the cave expanded along with its owner's popularity to include a trophy room, supercomputer and forensics lab.
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Old Aug 4th, 2008, 01:41 PM       
Bats worked out of a downtown pad when Boywonder went to college, Reminded me of that.
The lack of a batcave seems to be a good omen for 3. that and the almost $400 million


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i mean i'm looking
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Garth, that was a haiku.
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Old Aug 5th, 2008, 11:53 AM       
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He was in a "basement" because Wayne Manor burnt down in the first movie, so why would he drive all the way there just to lurk in a cave? It was even mentioned in the movie by Alfred. JEANETTE, you are still a dope.
Well I didn't see the first movie!
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Old Aug 10th, 2008, 05:37 PM       
I think it's actually reasonable to expect that Ledger could be in the next film - if he was intended to appear in it as a cameo, then that would have been shot before his death, during the filming of TDK (to save it on one contract, and to help continuity). I think they did a similar thing with Scarecrow's cameo (you know, filming it during the previous film, in this case, Begins).

If Ledger has a cameo, it would be nice to see him briefly in Arkham Asylum, which would bring a bit of closure, as well as being a good introduction for The Riddler.

Well... I doubt it'll happen. The 'We're destined to do this forever' sort of hinted that they were planning for Ledger to be The Joker again. Bollocks. I want Ledger back *cries*
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Old Aug 10th, 2008, 05:42 PM       
I saw it again yesterday and the semi-flip is on my top ten Most Badass Action Moments in movies.
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Old Aug 11th, 2008, 01:21 AM       
are the other 9 from the Live free or Die Hard? because I think that will do wonders for your lists legitimacy.
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Old Aug 11th, 2008, 11:41 AM       
The car flying up through the toll booth and into the helicopter almost made the list.
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I think it's actually reasonable to expect that Ledger could be in the next film - if he was intended to appear in it as a cameo, then that would have been shot before his death, during the filming of TDK (to save it on one contract, and to help continuity). I think they did a similar thing with Scarecrow's cameo (you know, filming it during the previous film, in this case, Begins).

If Ledger has a cameo, it would be nice to see him briefly in Arkham Asylum, which would bring a bit of closure, as well as being a good introduction for The Riddler.

Well... I doubt it'll happen. The 'We're destined to do this forever' sort of hinted that they were planning for Ledger to be The Joker again. Bollocks. I want Ledger back *cries*
Joker was planned for the third nut not filmed any scenes but the ditrector claims they used all footage of ledger in this movie and they didnt leave anything left for the third.
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Old Aug 21st, 2008, 12:48 AM       
So I got back from this!

The first half of the movie was pretty good because the joker was busy stealing the show, but when they brought twoface in I really think it descended into Shittytown. Mabye not downtown Shittytown, just a suburb.

The joker's lines were all great, except for "What doesn't kill us makes us stranger" because Trevor Goodchild already said that like 10 years ago.

I definitely think the movie should have focused on the joker way, way more, since one, Ledger's performance was masterful, and two, everyone else is bluh. Every time the BAT VOICE was used I lol'd a little :<

I'd give it a B.
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Old Aug 26th, 2008, 12:58 AM       
Does anyone know the name of the crazy that Two Face almost kills before Batman stops him? One of my friends is telling me its the mad hatter but i don't recall if his name was jervis or not
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Does anyone know the name of the crazy that Two Face almost kills before Batman stops him? One of my friends is telling me its the mad hatter but i don't recall if his name was jervis or not
His name's Schiff. Paranoid schizophrenic. The type of sick mind the Joker attracts.
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