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Old Sep 22nd, 2003, 10:44 AM        But I thought Saddam was never a threat...
"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998.

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face." Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998.

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998.

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of Mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001.

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them." Sen. Carl Levin (d, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." Senator Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002.

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002,

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do." Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002.

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002,

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002.

"[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ..." Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.
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Old Sep 22nd, 2003, 10:50 AM       
That's a really, really great point, Vinth. especially since so many folks here have said over and over again how much they admired Clinton and loved his foreign policy. I myself have said several times that I was slavishly devoted to Clinton and always agreed with him.

And I KNOW these are good arguments because of how many times YOU have said how much you agreed with Clinton and how much you admired his foreign policy.

It's the one area you and I hve always agreed on. Clinton was a clear headed insightful leader who always made the right choice and who's arguments regarding foreign policy were true, and never the product of self serving lies.
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Old Sep 22nd, 2003, 10:56 AM       
Oh, and clean your spit valve, Boortzaphone. That's nothing but a direct cut n' paste from Boortz. What, were you afraid to source it because it would make you look like the midless drone you are, or are you just too damn lazy to actually type?
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Old Sep 22nd, 2003, 11:37 AM       
I thought the point was that, in 1998 before the kicked the inspectors out, that they could find neither the WMD nor the records of destruction for them. Thus, the prevailing theory is NOT that they still have the WMD but that they destroyed the records of their destruction as well. I don't know if this method was designed to show that they NEVER had them or what but nobody has been able to prove the case otherwise. Did they ever have them? Yes. Have they been destroyed? Well, there are no records to show that that is the case but there haven't been any WMD found either. Therefore, the onus is on Dubbya to prove his case which he hasn't so far. In all honesty, for the sake of American peace of mind, I hope he does find them but he hasn't. That is all. Dubbya, your serve.
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Old Sep 22nd, 2003, 11:43 AM       
What a terrible state of affairs it must be when people are hoping that WMD's exist.


WHY DON'T WE INVADE NORTH KOREA! I REKON THEY HAVE SOME.
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Old Sep 22nd, 2003, 02:10 PM       
"Huh? What? Are you talking to me?"
- George W. Bush, 2003
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Old Sep 23rd, 2003, 10:37 AM       
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Originally Posted by AChimp
"Huh? What? Are you talking to me?"
- George W. Bush, 2003
"You must be talkin' to me. I don't see anyone else around."

< Dubbya quick-draws in the mirror to the delight of Rumsfeld >

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