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Old Nov 2nd, 2003, 01:05 AM        Why are people getting offended by this?
I don't remember what channel this will be on, but there's going to be some special asking the question "Was Jesus married?" There are some people who are actually getting UPSET by this! I don't understand it, and maybe you should fill me in.
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Old Nov 2nd, 2003, 02:40 AM       
Why offended? It just a question. Simple yes or no answer.

Are you a pig fucker?
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Ok then. You pig fucker...
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Old Nov 2nd, 2003, 11:51 AM       
Be enlightened: Every religion in the world has adherents that are so militant about their faith that asking any question that is unanswerable or that suggests something they perceive as negative will offend them. Go to the Middle East and ask a Muslim, "was Muhammad circumcised?" and you'll probably get clubbed to death on the spot.
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Old Nov 2nd, 2003, 11:53 AM       
Clubbed to death by SHOES.
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Old Nov 2nd, 2003, 02:04 PM       
Jesus was a pig fucker? WHat a fucking let down.....
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Old Nov 3rd, 2003, 01:08 AM       
When I was doing research about the Templar Knights in college, I came across this theory.

*******Spoiler to a popular book********

Its also the big secret of the Davinci Code by Dan Brown. Supposedly7 Leo was part of some secret society that was in on the big conspiracy



















*END OF SPOILER*




Think about what something like this would do to Christianity if it were true. Its not militantism. Pardon us if we have a hard time with someone trying to debunk one of the basic beliefs in our faith.
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Old Nov 3rd, 2003, 01:52 AM       
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Supposedly Leo was part of some secret society that was in on the big conspiracy
The Stonecutters?
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Old Nov 3rd, 2003, 12:45 PM       
You are going to make me sing the song, aren't you?

The last book I read on it, The Templar Revelation, refered to them as the Proxy Sion or something along those lines.
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Old Nov 3rd, 2003, 03:10 PM       
I didn't know that the issue of whether Jesus was married was a basic part of your faith. And anyway, you'd think Christians would be more busy fighting with the people who think God doesn't exist and Jesus was a folk legend.

Just sayin' is all.
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Old Nov 3rd, 2003, 03:22 PM       
Seriously, why would it "debunk" your faith to find out that Jesus was married? He was at least HALF human, right? In that case, he would have the same body parts and the same urges to use them. And I find it HARD to believe that during Jesus' teenage years he never ONCE had a girlfriend of some sort.
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Old Nov 3rd, 2003, 03:27 PM       
Because he was the SON of god, and like EVERY sons of god would do, he did not take part in TAKING A CRAP, or ANY sexual activities


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Old Nov 3rd, 2003, 04:17 PM       
Aren't you not supposed to pork if you're Jewish?
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Old Nov 3rd, 2003, 11:25 PM       
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Old Nov 4th, 2003, 12:48 AM       
People would get upset because that'd mean Jesus did human things, and maybe other human things like eat, sleep, shit, and things like that.

WHAT KIND OF GOD JUST DOES THE SAME OL' SHIT WE DO? That's offensive. At least Indian Gods have like 6 ARMS and stuff.
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Old Nov 4th, 2003, 01:02 AM       
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Seriously, why would it "debunk" your faith to find out that Jesus was married? He was at least HALF human, right? In that case, he would have the same body parts and the same urges to use them. And I find it HARD to believe that during Jesus' teenage years he never ONCE had a girlfriend of some sort.
If Jesus had a girlfriend, or took part in carnal, sinful, worldly pleasures of any kind, he wouldn't be perfect enough to absorb the worlds sins through his death. Of course one could argue that this logic makes no sense... but I think you can see where I'm going with this.
And why is it that hard to believe that he never had a girlfriend or was ever married? I would imagine that someone claiming to be completely and singularly appointed by the Creator to save humanity from sin would be able to back that kind of claim up with some dedication.
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Old Nov 4th, 2003, 01:47 AM       
Jesus was just like Merlin, a great magician. Why is it that nobody can see that?
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Old Nov 4th, 2003, 01:51 AM       
Because I'm sure Merlin could've made the cross-escape trick work.
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Old Nov 4th, 2003, 10:32 AM       
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If Jesus had a girlfriend, or took part in carnal, sinful, worldly pleasures of any kind, he wouldn't be perfect enough to absorb the worlds sins through his death.
Yet another thing I don't get about Christianity. Why is sex considered to be sinful? Doesn't it say in the bible to "Be Fruitful and Multiply"? That sounds a lot like sex to me! If it were a sin to have sex, then god would not have given the Human Race our sex organs and we would reproduce asexually.
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Old Nov 4th, 2003, 12:18 PM       
The reason people are getting upset about the special is it is based on the DiVinci Code, a book that is about as historically accurate as "War Of The Worlds". It claims that Jesus had a wife and child, that His Divinity was fake and made up by Constantine, and that there is this secret order that knew about it, and DiVinci kept it alive by putting certain pictures and words in his paintings and plans.

As you can see this may piss off the vast majority of Christians just a bit.
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Old Nov 4th, 2003, 12:55 PM       
The theory that Jesus was married to Mary predates the Davinci Code by well over two decades. Rabbis aged thirty were almost always married, though I personlly have no opinion about jesus and mary's relationship. We discussed this theory in religion classes at my episcopal high school in the late seventies.It's an offshoot of the historical Jesus movement, and the Davinci code draws from it. Big shock you didn't know that. Bigger shock that you thought the only thing you knew about this was all there was to know. There have been multiple documentaries on this topic over the years.

The Davinci code is fictional, like the Celestine Prophecies and The Left Behind Series. People who don't bother to seperate hitsorical fact from speculation are missing much of the fun of the book.

The idea that Jesus had a bloodline which was kept hidden and guarded by a secret society is also one of the major plot threads of the graphic novel "Preacher". Perhaps this special is based on that.

The vast majority of Christians, a subject you know very little about, reside in South America and Africa, and don't concern themselves that much with American Television.

I wonder if you think Mel Gibson's upcoming movie might 'piss off' any Christians, particularly Catholics who thought vatican II was doctrinal as opposed to optional. Rest assured, I won't get pissed off by either one.

PS: Say, some pointed social commentary about the Davinci code would make a great article for a web site. It's a damn shame there's np place out there to publsih really great writing like that.
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Old Nov 4th, 2003, 01:00 PM       
I just bring out the spiteful, seething worthless kike in you, Max.
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Old Nov 4th, 2003, 02:03 PM       
Oh, SNAP, Annette! Way to criticize the argumenter and not have a thought well posted up on his argument to boot!

Laws, imagine if you had your own website! Why, word would spread like WILD FIRE! Say, Lisa Marie, why don't you start one up? Or of that seems like too much of a commitment for you, the kind of thing it would be easy to start but hard to follow through on, you could just write articles for other sites. Why, people might even pay you for them once in a while, you could get into print journals, go on the road, teach other aspiring pundits. you might get money to speak publicly. Hell, stranger things have happened. I think that 'spiteful kike' joke of yours could bring the house down.

Oh, say, are you taking a sick day or did you get fired?
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Old Nov 4th, 2003, 02:46 PM       
Look at me, I'm Max Burbank. My style of humor is to bring up someone's website and then call them first names that don't apply to them! I work at a job a trained monkey could do if it was striken with Down Syndrome!

My life really sucks so I make up for it by being an internet funnyman! I'm so unique and special (ed)! I don't ever get any from my wife and I'm on the path of raising my kid in such a fucked-up liberal way that her major acomplishment in life with be being her porno king sugar daddy's main bitch while I make him lots of money by drinking 10 loads of cum out of a woman's asshole with a curley stray 4 days after I become legal!
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Old Nov 4th, 2003, 02:52 PM       
Look at me, I'm Vinth Clambake. My style of humor is to say really terrible transgressive sex stuff about a guys eight year old daughter! I like to ask myself, what kind of joke would Jesus Make, and right away of think of a guys daughter 'drinking 10 loads of cum out of a woman's asshole with a curley stray'!!
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Old Nov 4th, 2003, 02:53 PM       
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