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Old Mar 14th, 2004, 07:52 PM        Serious question: Who here like Johnny Ramone?
Never been a big fan of the Ramones and I think they were overrated.

....and yes. This thread belongs in this forum.
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Old Mar 14th, 2004, 09:38 PM       
Why's that?
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Old Mar 14th, 2004, 09:42 PM       
I don't know......I just don't see what the big deal was.....I mean, I understand what they did for that era of music but really......they were horrible musicians....for them to make an impact just shows how shitty that era was for music in general......
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Old Mar 14th, 2004, 09:49 PM       
I don't see how that makes it belong in this forum. :o
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Old Mar 14th, 2004, 10:39 PM       
You will.......give it a day or so.
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Old Mar 14th, 2004, 10:45 PM       
You're expecting people to make this a political issue?
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Old Mar 14th, 2004, 10:49 PM       
As soon as a liberal says, yes I liked Johnny, he'll go, boo yah, Johnny was a conservative!
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Old Mar 15th, 2004, 02:08 AM       
All the cool Ramones are dead.
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Old Mar 15th, 2004, 02:14 AM       
And we still can't get Cher into a goddamned plane crash.
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Old Mar 15th, 2004, 03:06 AM       
Seriously Ronnie, let the guy rest in peace. He was a Republican conservative, but who the hell cares? Nobody liked him for his stock portfolio, or politics, they liked him for being him. Joey Ramone coulda been a kitten killer and people woulda still adored him. His brother is a die hard liberal. I'm sure that means loads to you.
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Old Mar 15th, 2004, 09:42 AM       
oh my goodness, someone can like somebody without agreeing with thier stance on political matters?

HOW CAN THAT BE?

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Old Mar 15th, 2004, 10:01 AM       
I think Jerry Lee Lewis is the bomb. But it's not so much his music as his pro incest child bride stnce that really makes me a fan.
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Old Mar 15th, 2004, 12:59 PM       
Johnny Ramone is still very much alive.

The Ramones kicked ass. They're one of my five favorite bands and I don't think they were overrated in the slightest.
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Old Mar 15th, 2004, 02:01 PM       
The Romones showed how untalented and stupid you can be, and still make it in music. They were the reason punk need a band like the Clash to actually be concidered a genre of music.

They suck ass monkeys, and this should be in the music forum.
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Old Mar 15th, 2004, 02:20 PM       
Ronnie is a victim of deductive reasoning. He doesn't yet realize that matters of taste cannot be debated inpartially since conclusions made in regards to such are inherently subjective in nature and thus not open to objective analysis or debate.

I mean, what criteria is there is decide the merit of a band? Record sales? Following? Musical skill or songwriting talent? All of the above? None?

Thank you Ronnie, for another pointless thread which begins nowhere and ends in the air.

I like Johnny Ramone, if only for his cover of the Amazing Spiderman cartoon theme song.

Edit: Oh, and the Clash were a band of contradictory self righteous twits who brought absolutely fuck-all to the 'punk genre.' Now, Iggy or the Velvet Underground on the other hand. . .
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Old Mar 15th, 2004, 03:28 PM       
"Ronnie is a victim of deductive reasoning. He doesn't yet realize that matters of taste cannot be debated inpartially since conclusions made in regards to such are inherently subjective in nature and thus not open to objective analysis or debate" - RoR

WoW! Look at this!!!!

"Edit: Oh, and the Clash were a band of contradictory self righteous twits who brought absolutely fuck-all to the 'punk genre.' Now, Iggy or the Velvet Underground on the other hand. . ." - RoR

RoR, it look like you've brought "fuck all" to this conversation.

Thanks for nothing.

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My point was this....

http://www.washingtontimes.com/enter...5521-1823r.htm

If you read this article you'll see that Johnny Ramone told Eddie Vedder that he was alienating people by expousing political beliefs while performing. He's like Bono or Chris Martin on a smaller scale. I don't like musicians who try to be politicians or think they have all the answers.....the same goes for hollywood.

Even though I agree with him politically, I think when you are accepting an award for something you've achieved musically, you shouldn't use it as a platfrom to talk about something that has nothing to do music......in other words, don't use it as a platform to divide people. Music and art in general is supposed to be something that brings people together.
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Old Mar 15th, 2004, 04:08 PM       
so why did you start a thread asking who likes or dislikes johnny ramone?
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Old Mar 15th, 2004, 04:18 PM       
I like to get people on record before hand.
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Old Mar 15th, 2004, 04:34 PM       
Well, define your terms!

Barring any other info, one assumes you mean, did you like his music, since he's a musician.

But then you have to wonder what your actual question is since it's in the political forum.

And you STILL have to wonder.

If your point was "I don't like musicians who try to be politicians or think they have all the answers"

The question is "what do you think about Musicians who try to be politicians or think they have all the answers"

Or maybe you meant 'Does the fact that you like a musicians political persona influence your appreciation of their music?'

THAT's an interesting question. My wife can't abide Vanessa Redgrave bcause of her olitical grandstanding. I myself feel she's fine actress and while I think she's a booby politically and overly proud, it doesn't intrfere with my appreciation of her as a dramatist.

And what about celebrities who are also educated authorities on one or more subjcts? Should their celebrity bar them from commentary? Frank Zappa was an excellent musician who also had a solid enough grounding in economics to consult with Vaclev Havel, who by the way was a famous playwrite in addition to being a ppolitical activist. His resume in both fields was lengthy. Harold Pinter is both a world renowned playwrite and screenwriter, and one of the worlds foremost experts on torture. Should he stop being famous or stop speaking out for human rights? Einstein was a world famous scientist, but he was also known for being an ardent zionist, a subjct that has little or nothing to do with political science.

If a pop star want to voice their opinion, more power to them, wether it' Sting or Ted Nugent. Depending on the quality of their research and their presentation, I'll take them seriously or not. If someone feels more inclined to vote for W. because Brittany Spears likes him, or more enclined to vote for Wesley Clark becuase of Madonas support, more fool them. I can think of more thn one anchor man or pundit on TV with less education than Martin Sheen.

This was a dumbass gotcha question.
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Old Mar 15th, 2004, 04:36 PM       
No, you like to start irrelevant conversations.

Your assumption that music and art should be a uniter and not a divider is simply that-- an assumption. I think many would disagree with you, including our president, who doesn't even feel that civics is a place to bring people together (only in rhetoric, I suppose).

Good for Johnny Ramone-- he has an opinion. Maybe Johnny can be the pinup boy for that "conservative punks" website OAO posted recently.....
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Old Mar 15th, 2004, 04:42 PM       
Ok.

Thanks guys.
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Old Mar 15th, 2004, 04:46 PM       
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Old Mar 15th, 2004, 04:51 PM       
That's good to know.
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Old Mar 15th, 2004, 05:02 PM       
How about music for it's own sake and fuck all else? I don't know Chic Corea's political viewpoints but his greatest hits CD is on the disk carousel as we speak. I know that if some musician had some extreme political views that diametrically opposed my own, then it would taint my enjoyment of his/her work; therefore I avoid delving into this line of thought as pertains to music. People often disappoint, music never does.
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Old Mar 15th, 2004, 05:23 PM       
...actually, music sometimes does......quite often in fact.
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