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Old Feb 14th, 2004, 10:09 PM        Consciousness
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Old Feb 14th, 2004, 11:35 PM       
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Old Feb 14th, 2004, 11:45 PM       
I really don't see it as anything more than an awareness of internal and external stimuli or events. I think it's a mistake to even refer to it as if it were a unified whole, since it's just an abstraction.
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Old Feb 15th, 2004, 05:18 PM       
I would describe consciousness as self awereness. For example, I look around and I see where I am. I know that I am here. I know that this is my environment.

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Old Feb 15th, 2004, 09:35 PM       
The self evident dialectic opposition between self and others.
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Old Feb 15th, 2004, 09:41 PM       
If there is no heaven/hell i consider self awareness a curse cuz then u fear death
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Old Feb 15th, 2004, 09:46 PM       
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Old Feb 15th, 2004, 11:38 PM       
I think of it as being able to ask myself why I am typing this naked.
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Old Feb 16th, 2004, 04:16 PM       
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The self evident dialectic opposition between self and others.
You threw dialetic in there just for the hell of it, didn't you?

I prefer the necessarily true axiomatic opposition that upholds notions of the autonomous man.
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Old Feb 17th, 2004, 09:22 AM       
You threw in "necessarily true axiomatic opposition that upholds notions of the autonomous man." just for the hell of it didn't you?

If you can't explain that sentence in simpler terms, I'll assume it's just more brine out your blowhole.
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Old Feb 17th, 2004, 09:40 AM       
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Old Feb 17th, 2004, 09:45 AM       
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Old Feb 17th, 2004, 04:24 PM       
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You threw in "necessarily true axiomatic opposition that upholds notions of the autonomous man." just for the hell of it didn't you?

If you can't explain that sentence in simpler terms, I'll assume it's just more brine out your blowhole.
Consciousness implies the ability to perceive. Perceptions are necessarily real by definition.

Consciousness seperates the individual from the group, as we can only perceive our own perceptions.
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Old Feb 17th, 2004, 10:47 PM       
No I didn't. Any such basic duality is dialectic. If the self wasn't interactive with all else in it's context, then it would not be in said context. Dialectic opposition. What's so hard to understand about that?

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I prefer the necessarily true axiomatic opposition that upholds notions of the autonomous man.
Would you like some fries with that?


Seriously, what you said makes no sense. 'Upholds notions of the autonomous man'. ??
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Old Feb 18th, 2004, 10:19 AM       
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Old Feb 18th, 2004, 05:55 PM       
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No I didn't. Any such basic duality is dialectic. If the self wasn't interactive with all else in it's context, then it would not be in said context. Dialectic opposition. What's so hard to understand about that?
I didn't say that it didn't make sense. I said that you put the word in the sentence just for the hell of it.

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Seriously, what you said makes no sense. 'Upholds notions of the autonomous man'. ??
Consciousness allows man to think of himself as an individual, outside of the collective. What's so hard to understand about that?
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Old Feb 18th, 2004, 07:30 PM       
Consciousness is overrated. I'd rather sleep.
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Old Feb 18th, 2004, 08:46 PM       
Your consciouse when your asleep right?
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Old Feb 19th, 2004, 02:30 AM       
Uh...no. Tell me, what's the difference between sleeping and just resting?
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Old Feb 19th, 2004, 06:57 AM       
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Old Feb 19th, 2004, 10:58 AM       
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I didn't say that it didn't make sense. I said that you put the word in the sentence just for the hell of it.
You know you're fucking annoying, right?
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Old Feb 23rd, 2004, 04:24 PM       
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Consciousness allows man to think of himself as an individual, outside of the collective. What's so hard to understand about that?
If there were no "others" to be outside of, how would you be able to define yourself as an individual apart from them?
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