Should Alito be confirmed?

[Kulturkampf]

Originally Posted by Cosmo Electrolux

You are an idiot. You are a Bush sac rider, nothing more. You pretend to be a cultural revolutionary, but in reality you're a closet Nazi with a RNC membership card in your wallet. Your pathetic attempts at reason and debate are almost as ridiculous as your blog. What you do is take typical Republican talking points gleened for those stupid right wing "News" web sites you keep quoting and delcaring yourself the winner. You are a moron, plain and simple. If you were in my home town, you would be the jackass with a "W:the president" sticker on your SUV, hanging out at Appleby's drinking Sam Adams and calling anyone who dares disagree with you a god hater or accusing them of hating America. You have yet to present an original idea, or a meaningful debate, or for that matter, a halfway legible post. You should probably consider a couple of grammar classes...maybe a political science class or two...until then, just shut up.

No, you do not choose to debate. You are a loser.

you sit at your computer (similarily to me, but I bet you are a man with your legs crossed as a female or vice vesa), and you make bizarre insults when you get angry.

and you lose your debates and are too lazy to maintain a blog.

[Kulturkampf]

the reason to go around the FISA court is:

(1) Courts take time; if a phone call is being placed from a telephone number reputed to be of a terrorist to a US person, we need quick action to monitor the call; or if a call is originating from a satellite phone in a region known to be plotting terrorist acts towards an American place wich could act as a signal...

Immediate action is needed to monitor the call. The call cannot be delayed, and it cannot be recorded unless there is a warrant to listen to it.

Do we have enough time to appear before a judge and get a warrant signed in the time that the phone rings before it is picked up?

(2) the amount of warrants that would be issued would become ridiculous, and

(3) It is not unconstitutional being that it does not involve the monitoring of private calls of US citizens, and if it does involve a US citizen, the US citizen is likely committing an act of treason, and furthermore, it

(4) doesn't violate privacy in the sense that nothing about a person's private life will be used in persecution of that person because under this warrant only evidence gathered pertinent to FIS sources and terrorst plots would be considered valid.

[Pub Lover]

Originally Posted by Kulturkampf

you make bizarre insults when you get angry.

Originally Posted by Kulturkampf

I bet you are a man with your legs crossed as a female or vice vesa

[Kulturkampf]

Originally Posted by Pub Lover

I concede this point.

[glowbelly]

you're also very naive.

[Cosmo Electrolux]

Originally Posted by Kulturkampf

No, you do not choose to debate. You are a loser.

you sit at your computer (similarily to me, but I bet you are a man with your legs crossed as a female or vice vesa), and you make bizarre insults when you get angry.

and you lose your debates and are too lazy to maintain a blog.

I will engage in debate when you learn to speak English. Until then, I will continue to treat you like the worthless little maggot that you are.

[ziggytrix]

Taking the judicial branch out of the equation here is damnably UNAMERICAN, and point for point you are gravely mistaken.

Originally Posted by Kulturkampf

the reason to go around the FISA court is:

(1) Courts take time

Do we have enough time to appear before a judge and get a warrant signed in the time that the phone rings before it is picked up?

Which is why the FISA law allows for the Attorney General to file for a "retroactive warrant" something like 1-3 days after the President feels he needed to take immediate, emergency action. This isn't an issue.

Originally Posted by KiKi

(2) the amount of warrants that would be issued would become ridiculous, and

What a weak excuse for getting rid of oversight! Oh man, it'd be really HARD to have this court do its job! It'd be RIDICULOUS to expect a Federal Court to DO ITS JOB! You know what, let's just get rid of all the courts, and haul all suspects before der Präsident and let him decide what to do with them. I'm sure he'll make fair decisions, so who cares about some dumb old constitutional seperation of power!!

Originally Posted by karmachameleon

(3) It is not unconstitutional being that it does not involve the monitoring of private calls of US citizens, and if it does involve a US citizen, the US citizen is likely committing an act of treason, and furthermore, it

Without judicial oversight WE DON'T HAVE ANY GUARANTEE of who's being monitored or why, so this point is also invalid. Let the President do his job, and his Cabinet can do theirs, and the Courts can do theirs. Goddamn it, if we have a US citizen committing treason, I sure as fuck don't want him getting off on some "they didn't get a warrant" technical bullshit.

Originally Posted by Dummkopf

(4) doesn't violate privacy in the sense that nothing about a person's private life will be used in persecution of that person because under this warrant only evidence gathered pertinent to FIS sources and terrorst plots would be considered valid.

What warrant? Do try to stay focused. We're talking about a warrantless wiretap!

[mburbank]

Jesus, KiKi. Not one valid argument AND you write like shit. You should aplly for the civil service. Seriously. With your skills you could go from an entry level cog to a Bush Administration adviser in about a week. It should take you a month to get a Medal of Freedom.

[sadie]

Originally Posted by ziggytrix

Which is why the FISA law allows for the Attorney General to file for a "retroactive warrant" something like 1-3 days after the President feels he needed to take immediate, emergency action.

actually, more like 15 days, i believe, in wartime.