49 DEMOCRATS IN THE U.S. HOUSE OF REP. SAY .............

[Ronnie Raygun]

........."WE DON'T SUPPORT THE TROOPS."

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...6/172552.shtml
49 Democrats Refuse to Commend Troops and Condemn Abuses
NewsMax.com Wires
Thursday, May 6, 2004
The 365-50 roll call Thursday by which the House approved a resolution condemning the abuses of Iraqi prisoners while commending the members of the U.S. Armed Forces serving in Iraq.

A "yes" vote is a vote to approve the resolution.

Voting "yes" were 151 Democrats, 213 Republicans and one independent.

Voting "no" were 49 Democrats and one independent.

X denotes those not voting.

There is one vacancy in the 435-member House.

ALABAMA

Democrats _ Cramer, Y; Davis, Y.

Republicans _ Aderholt, Y; Bachus, Y; Bonner, Y; Everett, Y; Rogers, Y.

ALASKA

Republicans _ Young, Y.

ARIZONA

Democrats _ Grijalva, N; Pastor, Y.

Republicans _ Flake, Y; Franks, Y; Hayworth, Y; Kolbe, Y; Renzi, Y; Shadegg, Y.

ARKANSAS

Democrats _ Berry, Y; Ross, Y; Snyder, Y.

Republicans _ Boozman, Y.

CALIFORNIA

Democrats _ Baca, X; Becerra, Y; Berman, Y; Capps, Y; Cardoza, Y; Davis, Y; Dooley, Y; Eshoo, Y; Farr, Y; Filner, Y; Harman, Y; Honda, Y; Lantos, Y; Lee, N; Lofgren, Y; Matsui, Y; Millender-McDonald, N; Miller, George, N; Napolitano, Y; Pelosi, N; Roybal-Allard, Y; Sanchez, Linda T., Y; Sanchez, Loretta, Y; Schiff, Y; Sherman, Y; Solis, X; Stark, N; Tauscher, Y; Thompson, Y; Waters, N; Watson, N; Waxman, N; Woolsey, N.

Republicans _ Bono, X; Calvert, Y; Cox, X; Cunningham, Y; Doolittle, Y; Dreier, Y; Gallegly, Y; Herger, Y; Hunter, Y; Issa, Y; Lewis, Y; McKeon, Y; Miller, Gary, Y; Nunes, Y; Ose, Y; Pombo, Y; Radanovich, Y; Rohrabacher, Y; Royce, Y; Thomas, Y.

COLORADO

Democrats _ DeGette, Y; Udall, Y.

Republicans _ Beauprez, Y; Hefley, Y; McInnis, Y; Musgrave, Y; Tancredo, Y.

CONNECTICUT

Democrats _ DeLauro, Y; Larson, Y.

Republicans _ Johnson, Y; Shays, Y; Simmons, Y.

DELAWARE

Republicans _ Castle, Y.

FLORIDA

Democrats _ Boyd, X; Brown, Corrine, Y; Davis, Y; Deutsch, Y; Hastings, N; Meek, N; Wexler, Y.

Republicans _ Bilirakis, Y; Brown-Waite, Ginny, Y; Crenshaw, Y; Diaz-Balart, L., Y; Diaz-Balart, M., Y; Feeney, Y; Foley, Y; Goss, Y; Harris, Y; Keller, Y; Mica, Y; Miller, Y; Putnam, Y; Ros-Lehtinen, Y; Shaw, Y; Stearns, Y; Weldon, Y; Young, Y.

GEORGIA

Democrats _ Bishop, Y; Lewis, N; Majette, Y; Marshall, Y; Scott, Y.

Republicans _ Burns, Y; Collins, Y; Deal, Y; Gingrey, Y; Isakson, Y; Kingston, Y; Linder, Y; Norwood, Y.

HAWAII

Democrats _ Abercrombie, N; Case, Y.

IDAHO

Republicans _ Otter, Y; Simpson, Y.

ILLINOIS

Democrats _ Costello, Y; Davis, Y; Emanuel, Y; Evans, Y; Gutierrez, N; Jackson, Y; Lipinski, Y; Rush, Y; Schakowsky, N.

Republicans _ Biggert, Y; Crane, Y; Hastert, Y; Hyde, Y; Johnson, Y; Kirk, Y; LaHood, Y; Manzullo, Y; Shimkus, Y; Weller, Y.

INDIANA

Democrats _ Carson, Y; Hill, Y; Visclosky, Y.

Republicans _ Burton, Y; Buyer, Y; Chocola, Y; Hostettler, Y; Pence, Y; Souder, Y.

IOWA

Democrats _ Boswell, Y.

Republicans _ King, Y; Latham, X; Leach, Y; Nussle, Y.

KANSAS

Democrats _ Moore, Y.

Republicans _ Moran, Y; Ryun, Y; Tiahrt, Y.

KENTUCKY

Democrats _ Chandler, Y; Lucas, Y.

Republicans _ Lewis, X; Northup, Y; Rogers, Y; Whitfield, Y.

LOUISIANA

Democrats _ Alexander, Y; Jefferson, Y; John, X.

Republicans _ Baker, Y; McCrery, X; Tauzin, X; Vitter, Y.

MAINE

Democrats _ Allen, Y; Michaud, Y.

MARYLAND

Democrats _ Cardin, Y; Cummings, N; Hoyer, N; Ruppersberger, Y; Van Hollen, Y; Wynn, Y.

Republicans _ Bartlett, Y; Gilchrest, Y.

MASSACHUSETTS

Democrats _ Capuano, Y; Delahunt, Y; Frank, N; Lynch, Y; Markey, N; McGovern, N; Meehan, Y; Neal, Y; Olver, N; Tierney, Y.

MICHIGAN

Democrats _ Conyers, N; Dingell, Y; Kildee, Y; Kilpatrick, N; Levin, Y; Stupak, Y.

Republicans _ Camp, Y; Ehlers, Y; Hoekstra, Y; Knollenberg, Y; McCotter, Y; Miller, Y; Rogers, Y; Smith, Y; Upton, Y.

MINNESOTA

Democrats _ McCollum, N; Oberstar, N; Peterson, Y; Sabo, N.

Republicans _ Gutknecht, Y; Kennedy, Y; Kline, Y; Ramstad, Y.

MISSISSIPPI

Democrats _ Taylor, Y; Thompson, Y.

Republicans _ Pickering, Y; Wicker, Y.

MISSOURI

Democrats _ Clay, Y; Gephardt, Y; McCarthy, Y; Skelton, Y.

Republicans _ Akin, Y; Blunt, X; Emerson, Y; Graves, Y; Hulshof, Y.

MONTANA

Republicans _ Rehberg, Y.

NEBRASKA

Republicans _ Bereuter, Y; Osborne, Y; Terry, Y.

NEVADA

Democrats _ Berkley, Y.

Republicans _ Gibbons, Y; Porter, Y.

NEW HAMPSHIRE

Republicans _ Bass, Y; Bradley, Y.

NEW JERSEY

Democrats _ Andrews, Y; Holt, Y; Menendez, Y; Pallone, N; Pascrell, Y; Payne, N; Rothman, Y.

Republicans _ Ferguson, Y; Frelinghuysen, Y; Garrett, Y; LoBiondo, Y; Saxton, Y; Smith, Y.

NEW MEXICO

Democrats _ Udall, Y.

Republicans _ Pearce, Y; Wilson, Y.

NEW YORK

Democrats _ Ackerman, Y; Bishop, Y; Crowley, Y; Engel, Y; Hinchey, N; Israel, Y; Lowey, Y; Maloney, Y; McCarthy, Y; McNulty, Y; Meeks, X; Nadler, Y; Owens, N; Rangel, N; Serrano, N; Slaughter, Y; Towns, N; VelAzquez, N; Weiner, Y.

Republicans _ Boehlert, Y; Fossella, Y; Houghton, Y; Kelly, Y; King, Y; McHugh, X; Quinn, Y; Reynolds, Y; Sweeney, Y; Walsh, Y.

NORTH CAROLINA

Democrats _ Ballance, Y; Etheridge, Y; McIntyre, Y; Miller, Y; Price, Y; Watt, N.

Republicans _ Ballenger, Y; Burr, Y; Coble, Y; Hayes, Y; Jones, Y; Myrick, Y; Taylor, Y.

NORTH DAKOTA

Democrats _ Pomeroy, Y.

OHIO

Democrats _ Brown, N; Jones, N; Kaptur, N; Kucinich, N; Ryan, N; Strickland, N.

Republicans _ Boehner, Y; Chabot, Y; Gillmor, Y; Hobson, Y; LaTourette, Y; Ney, Y; Oxley, X; Portman, Y; Pryce, Y; Regula, Y; Tiberi, Y; Turner, Y.

OKLAHOMA

Democrats _ Carson, Y.

Republicans _ Cole, Y; Istook, Y; Lucas, Y; Sullivan, Y.

OREGON

Democrats _ Blumenauer, N; DeFazio, Y; Hooley, Y; Wu, Y.

Republicans _ Walden, Y.

PENNSYLVANIA

Democrats _ Brady, Y; Doyle, Y; Fattah, N; Hoeffel, Y; Holden, Y; Kanjorski, Y; Murtha, Y.

Republicans _ English, Y; Gerlach, Y; Greenwood, X; Hart, Y; Murphy, Y; Peterson, Y; Pitts, Y; Platts, Y; Sherwood, Y; Shuster, Y; Toomey, Y; Weldon, Y.

RHODE ISLAND

Democrats _ Kennedy, Y; Langevin, Y.

SOUTH CAROLINA

Democrats _ Clyburn, N; Spratt, Y.

Republicans _ Barrett, Y; Brown, Y; DeMint, X; Wilson, X.

SOUTH DAKOTA

TENNESSEE

Democrats _ Cooper, Y; Davis, Y; Ford, Y; Gordon, Y; Tanner, Y.

Republicans _ Blackburn, Y; Duncan, Y; Jenkins, X; Wamp, Y.

TEXAS

Democrats _ Bell, Y; Doggett, Y; Edwards, Y; Frost, Y; Gonzalez, Y; Green, Y; Hinojosa, Y; Jackson-Lee, N; Johnson, E. B., Y; Lampson, Y; Ortiz, Y; Reyes, Y; Rodriguez, Y; Sandlin, Y; Stenholm, Y; Turner, Y.

Republicans _ Barton, Y; Bonilla, Y; Brady, Y; Burgess, Y; Carter, Y; Culberson, Y; DeLay, Y; Granger, Y; Hall, Y; Hensarling, Y; Johnson, Sam, Y; Neugebauer, Y; Paul, N; Sessions, Y; Smith, Y; Thornberry, Y.

UTAH

Democrats _ Matheson, Y.

Republicans _ Bishop, Y; Cannon, Y.

VERMONT

Independent _ Sanders, Y.

VIRGINIA

Democrats _ Boucher, Y; Moran, Y; Scott, Y.

Republicans _ Cantor, Y; Davis, Jo Ann, X; Davis, Tom, Y; Forbes, Y; Goode, Y; Goodlatte, Y; Schrock, Y; Wolf, Y.

WASHINGTON

Democrats _ Baird, Y; Dicks, Y; Inslee, N; Larsen, Y; McDermott, N; Smith, Y.

Republicans _ Dunn, Y; Hastings, Y; Nethercutt, Y.

WEST VIRGINIA

Democrats _ Mollohan, N; Rahall, Y.

Republicans _ Capito, Y.

WISCONSIN

Democrats _ Baldwin, Y; Kind, Y; Kleczka, Y; Obey, Y.

Republicans _ Green, Y; Petri, Y; Ryan, Y; Sensenbrenner, Y.

WYOMING

Republicans _ Cubin, Y.



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[punkgrrrlie10]

why do we care?

[Ronnie Raygun]

How would I know how or why you care?

[AChimp]

Why did you post it then?

[punkgrrrlie10]

I'm just wondering the message you are trying to send by posting that.

[mesobe]

it means hes got nothing to do but copy/paste bullshit from the CNN website

[sspadowsky]

Pay attention, doofus. It's from Newsmax, and that's even worse.

Maybe you should have posted a link to the text of the resolution, Ronnie. You know, so that we could see everything that's in that resolution, and weigh it objectively, rather than rely on the half-assed journalism of a sub-toilet paper rag like Newsmax.

[mburbank]

Wait a sec, are you saying that Newsmax only posted a paraphrased version of the resolution? And that the story doesn't even ASK why people voted the way they did? Why... that would mean that Newsmax wasn't even journalism! And that it's readers had all the intlellectul curiosity and actual desire to be informed of a tree stump!

[Bennett]

Why are they wasting time voting for this tripe anyway, when we have war criminals in office?

[Miss Modular]

Seriously, I thought of sending a story to Newsmax about John Kerry raping babies in Vietnam. Except that they'd probably take it seriously.

[Ronnie Raygun]

It's an AP story you morons. It just happens to be on the Newsmax website.

[punkgrrrlie10]

And you still fail to state a reason or point that you are trying to make by posting it...Is this just generalized information you wanted to share?

[Ronnie Raygun]

That democrats generally don't support the troops.

Want another example?

How about the time they tried to discount military absentee ballots after the 2000 election....

[punkgrrrlie10]

I find your use of the word "generally" a bit misleading.

Voting "yes" were 151 Democrats, 213 Republicans and one independent.

Voting "no" were 49 Democrats and one independent

I know I haven't taken math since I started law school but isn't 151 well over a majority of democrats? Is 49 less than 1/3 of the dems in the House?

[sspadowsky]

Originally Posted by doofus

It's an AP story you morons. It just happens to be on the Newsmax website.

Then qoute the AP, dumbass. You know no one on here will take Nesmax sereiously. It doesn't make the journalism any less shallow.

Originally Posted by doofus

That democrats generally don't support the troops.

Want another example?

How about the time they tried to discount military absentee ballots after the 2000 election....

Want another example, jerky? How about tthe fact that Bush is the guy who moved to cut their endangerment pay and their benefits? You want to talk about who is fucking over the troops? Look no further than our president. This is the same guy who praised the troops during his GI-Joe landing, right at the same time he was moving to cut the aforementioned benefits. Way to piss down the backs of the troops while telling them it's raining. Democrats, my ass. Start reading the real news instead of Rush's site, Raygun.

Punkgrrrlie summed up the rest of the argument quite well. You swallow Republican propaganda jizz better than a porn star, Ronnie. Maybe there's a future for you yet.

[Cosmo Electrolux]

Originally Posted by Ronnie Raygun

That democrats generally don't support the troops.

Want another example?

How about the time they tried to discount military absentee ballots after the 2000 election....

hmmmm....soldiers parents are having fund raisers to buy armour plating for humvees and kevlar vests....republican president..republican congress and senate.....and the democrats don't support the troops?

[mburbank]

Nalds, are you the Joeseph Goebels of I-mockery or just a stupid sucker eager to latch on to and promulgate any old reactionary idea that pops into your noggin?

I support the troops by wanting to bring them home. I can't think of anything more supportive. My Godkids father is over there right now. suppprt him by hoping he doesn't die and he seems a lot less likely to die here at home than over there.

You confuse supporting this war, which I don't, with supporting these troops, which I do.

America is what's called a pluralistic society, but then I know you hte what America stands for, so it comes as no suprise that you find your deffinition of supporting the troops the only satisfactory one. How old are you? You could be supprting them with your physical presence, couldn't you?

[Ronnie Raygun]

How many on the right went over to Vietnam and boosted the moral of our enemy?

How many on the right ever spit on our soldiers in airports and called them baby killers?

When soldiers die in Iraq, who benefits?

Terrorists and democrats.

If Usama is found, who does it hurt?

Terrorists and democrats.

If Bush is voted out of office, who wins?

Terrorists and democrats.

[mburbank]

Two, two, two mints in one!

49 out of 151 is a vast majority!

Find me one, just one, one single CONTEMPORARY account of a vet being spit on. As in reported at the time.

I think when we invaded Iraq we boosted the hell out of Usama's Moral. Recruitment in Al Quaeda certainly went up. Who would it hurt of we had avoided invading Iraq? Usama.

When you say Democrats 'benefit' from soldiers deaths, you reveal serious moral failings in yourself. It shows a marked lack of empathy and compassion, and the reduction of mortal stakes to politics. It is a very, very unchristian attitude. Remove the beam from your own eye before attending to the motes in others.

Your view that Bush loosing would be terrorist victory reveals a marked anti american streak. Should we all vote for Bush regrdless of what we think becuase of the terrorists? Or are we still a free country, one man one vote. If I voted for Bush because of the terrorists, then they have indeed won. I hate bush for a whole host of reasons that have to do with my politics and my morality. To vote for him under those circumstances would be a betrayal of the franchise.

Who wins when people become so reactionary they no longer recognize the validity of a two party sytem and reuce everything to 'with us or against us'? Neocons and terrorists. Stop staring into the abyss, naldo. You are becoming one.

[Helm]

There is no validity in the two party system.

[Ronnie Raygun]

Blah, blah, blah Max.

You know terrorists want Bush to lose. Are you going to help their cause? Yes or no?

[KevinTheOmnivore]

Originally Posted by Ronnie Raygun

You know terrorists want Bush to lose. Are you going to help their cause? Yes or no?

Defend this claim, or never speak on it again. Quantify it. Explain to us how terrorists prefer Kerry over Bush. Explain to us how the terrorists would fear a president who polarizes the rest of the world from America, who creates breeding pools for terrorism by destabilizing Iraq, etc.

Terrorists militias like the G.S.P.C. are gathering weapons in North Africa, and Arab mercs. are commiting acts of genocide in Sudan, not to mention the remaining instability in Afghanistan, the hostilities between us and N. Korea. We snub our friends in Europe and make new friends with dictators in Libya and Pakistan.

PLEASE, explain to me how the terrorists would prefer a Western world united instead of this divided one under President Bush......

[mburbank]

"Blah, blah, blah Max."
Wow. It's like the Lincoln/Douglass debate. No wait, it's more like the Lincoln/Log debate.

"You know terrorists want Bush to lose. Are you going to help their cause? Yes or no?"

The only way you could know that is if you're a terrorist. I think you're wrong. I think they love W. He's one man recruiting poster for terrorism. But I believe you think you're right. I think Kerry would do a much better job fighting terrorism than Bush would, so regardless of what the terrorists want, it's one of the many reasons I intend to vote for him. See, I like to decide things like that on my own. But you go ahead and let what you think terrorists want determine who you vote for.

You know Bush wants to destroy the constitution. Are you going to help his cause? yes or no?

[Dole]

Ronnie seems to be in a state of feverish desperation at the moment.

[Ronnie Raygun]

Dole, you are just making up lies to make yourself feel better.

Don'r forget to vote for Blair.......AGAIN!