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Originally Posted by ranxer
there's lots of scientific evidence that it was a demolition.
1) the buildings came down at freefall speed..(10 seconds) this would require that nothing was below the floors that supposedly buckled
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Or that the building was built in sections. Its more efficiient way of building and also aids in case they ever had to take down the Towers
And welcome back, looney tune. Finally gone off the deep end have you?
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2) the buildings came down despite the fact that the fires were going out. (dark black smoke indicates a smothered or dieing fire)
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Did you fail science as a kid? The smoke is a clear indicator of fire. Some sort of on going chemical reaction was creating the by-product we know as smoke.
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2a) people were standing in the wholes the planes made, showing that there was no raging fire.
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I didn't see any of that, but I'll play along.
You know what? No I won't. Show me that one. The impact of the planes destroyed the floors they hit. There is no way anyone was peering out those holes.
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3) fires have never brought down steel structured buildings
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Because no skyscraper had ever taken jumbo jets full of gas slamming into them and full throttle. Its rerally hard to try and site precedence in this case.
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the wtc buildings were designed to withstand large commercial jet lliner impacts.
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1) He may have been bragging
2) He said of that era. The 700 series had just started to hit the market and wasn't even close to the most widely used airliner
3) There is a huge difference between how something is designed and how it is built. My dad helped build them and said they didn't reinforce the skeleton like they were supposed to.
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) the buildings came straight down! i could understand maybe one but three buildings diving straight down into thier footprints? no way.. especially when none of the planes hit dead center.
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Neither plane hit dead center. Besides, the towers were built to collpase in case of catastrophe.
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5) fires in the rubble lasting weeks and burning much higher than jet fuel or regular refuse fires.
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Says you. What was lighting those fires if not jet fuel? Demoliton explosives go bang and thats it. There isn't supposed to be lingering fires.
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6) PULVERIZED concrete ejected from many floors would not have been there if the buildings simply collapsed..
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Sure it would. To illustrate how:
There was this old game called Aggrivation.....I think. Wooden pegs all stuffed togetherand held tightly together by a piece of wood pushed by a spring. Aggrivate the set up and the spring snapped, pushing the wood, ejecting the pegs in all directions.
Same concept.
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7) (not so scientific)reports of repeating explosions by firefighters and people on the scene.
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And? There were resteraunts in there with gas stoves and tons of other ways compustabiles could have been set off.
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ask a demolition expert about some of these.. or a structural engineer that hasn't taken the blue pill all the way.
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What blue pill? I've spoken to fire fighters, construction workers, physiscists. Read Scientific American, Popular Mechanics etc etc.
These are people who actually know science.
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oh and the comments about an economist knowing what happened on 9/11 are silly..
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No, ignoring physics experts in favor of a economist is silly.
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I saw it right away and i didn't even graduate with my engineering degree..
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With your complete failure to grasp simple scientific concepts, I'd be shocked if you passed the thrid grade.
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as a matter of fact.. high school science is all you need to debunk the bush admins conspiracy theory.
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You learned that fire doesn't produce smoke in high school?
Funny, I learned how tell what is burning (ie exposed to fire) by the color of the smoke.
Please direct me to the science book where you learned all your ideas. You may have a pretty good law suite in the making.
I made a habbit of ignoring you and a few others because of just how pointless arguing with an extremist is, but this one just begged for a response.
The worst part is you have a kid. You are responsible for shaping another human being. This kid is going to grow up in a worlkd that just doesn't exist. He will be taught to ignore everything in front of him and forsake all logic in order to make an excuse why someone who he doesn't like is evil.
How anyone that doesn't agree with him is on the "blue pill" or brainwashed.
That is, if this is what you are like in the real world. Unless this is just and act to raise some fun on message boards, you are condemning your child to a life of solitude and ridicule.